Another Muslim who used to post here with the screen name jisbond pointed us to the Islamic Articles of Faith written in the 13th Century. In it we found references to the Quran stating that research in condemned and philosophic discourse is ill advised.

So we came to the conclusion that such fundamentalistic views of science took over the Islamic world at that time and eventually led to Islam being rather backward in science. Previous to this, Islam boasted the very best math and science in the world. That was concurrent with Islam conquering almost the entire known world at that time.

But since then Islam has lost it empires to colonial powers that had better science.

So although the quran contains science, as jisbond also pointed out to us, at the same time it apparently can be used to undermine science and in fact that seems to be the case.


PS The prophet of my religion is also still alive.

• Why the need for s Prophet? - budbock - June 30, 2003 - 14:09 UTC
  • More spokesperson than prophet - yanniru - June 30, 2003 - 17:21 UTC
    • Yanniru, as usual, misunderstands Jesus' words - whomi - July 1, 2003 - 06:01 UTC
  • It's a possiblity... - lysithea - June 30, 2003 - 18:23 UTC
    • I would like to correct one item - yanniru - July 1, 2003 - 02:02 UTC
      • 'K, missplaced grammer... - lysithea - July 1, 2003 - 14:56 UTC
        • Kelsey? - budbock - July 1, 2003 - 18:48 UTC
          • What??? - lysithea - July 1, 2003 - 19:28 UTC
            • It was hilarious for awhile because the character is so uppity - budbock - July 7, 2003 - 15:12 UTC
  • You don't need a connection to God in Islam - nahla - July 2, 2003 - 23:22 UTC
    • Lovely. - lysithea - July 3, 2003 - 01:40 UTC
      • How about that? - nahla - July 4, 2003 - 21:24 UTC
        • Well I love my prophet. - lysithea - July 4, 2003 - 22:10 UTC
• I'm glad no body got anything on Islam - nahla - July 1, 2003 - 07:41 UTC
  • Sotell me why Islam gave up on science and math - yanniru - July 1, 2003 - 12:53 UTC
    • Twenty six log-in names / five actual people - budbock - July 1, 2003 - 18:58 UTC
      • Oh dude... - lysithea - July 1, 2003 - 19:32 UTC
        • Lysithea identifies "troll-boy" - carefuluniverse - July 1, 2003 - 21:14 UTC
          • Bud Bock's reference... - lysithea - July 2, 2003 - 17:22 UTC
            • Well that was a non-reply. I think lysithea is a troll - carefuluniverse - July 3, 2003 - 00:09 UTC
              • Thank you. ;] - lysithea - July 3, 2003 - 01:45 UTC
      • I have several login names but I am not a troll - carefuluniverse - July 1, 2003 - 21:11 UTC
        • No I really am not. - lysithea - July 2, 2003 - 17:26 UTC
        • Sorry you were not more clear about that - carefuluniverse - July 3, 2003 - 00:12 UTC
          • AS evil? - lysithea - July 3, 2003 - 01:47 UTC
            • Letting others provide your conscience should only be temporary - carefuluniverse - July 3, 2003 - 01:55 UTC
              • Nope. - lysithea - July 3, 2003 - 14:49 UTC
    • It's Moslems who did - nahla - July 2, 2003 - 23:08 UTC
  • Wait - what about women and Islam? - lysithea - July 1, 2003 - 15:03 UTC
    • The Women issue makes me proud of being Muslim - nahla - July 3, 2003 - 11:41 UTC
      • Thanx Nahla - lysithea - July 3, 2003 - 14:51 UTC
      • It appears that the reforms of Islam were undermined - yanniru - July 3, 2003 - 17:21 UTC
  • Are you saying Mohamed was stupid? - yanniru - July 2, 2003 - 12:01 UTC
    • Then why does the Quran say the universe is expanding - nahla - July 2, 2003 - 23:12 UTC
      • I cannot dispute that one - yanniru - July 3, 2003 - 04:15 UTC
        • Do you love your enemies, Richard? - lysithea - July 3, 2003 - 15:51 UTC
          • What has that got to do with the expanding universe - yanniru - July 3, 2003 - 16:56 UTC
            • Does it work with Mike as well? - harvey1 - July 3, 2003 - 21:06 UTC
            • Oh, I can FEEL the love... - lysithea - July 3, 2003 - 22:16 UTC
              • Really? Tell us more, please. Will science ever confirm it? - carefuluniverse - July 4, 2003 - 06:01 UTC
                • Whatever. - lysithea - July 4, 2003 - 20:45 UTC
                  • Regarding "sludge" as you call it. - carefuluniverse - July 5, 2003 - 02:12 UTC
                    • Are they? - lysithea - July 5, 2003 - 21:20 UTC
                      • Apparently you aren't - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2003 - 04:13 UTC
                        • You were the original accuser. - lysithea - July 6, 2003 - 21:08 UTC
                          • that was poop - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2003 - 21:35 UTC
                            • Congrats. - lysithea - July 6, 2003 - 23:16 UTC
                              • It wasn't an insult. It was simple, gentle accuracy (nt) - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2003 - 23:34 UTC
                                • "That was poop" - lysithea - July 7, 2003 - 00:51 UTC
                                  • Best to leave Mike alone - harvey1 - July 7, 2003 - 14:12 UTC
                                    • prefer $250,000, no interest, easy terms; will hire yer relative - carefuluniverse - July 7, 2003 - 19:30 UTC
                                      • I think it should be your choice - harvey1 - July 7, 2003 - 21:07 UTC
                  • "You - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2003 - 16:46 UTC
                    • June 12. Blackholes forum. - lysithea - July 6, 2003 - 21:18 UTC
                      • but sillly is good and harv is anonymous - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2003 - 21:38 UTC
                        • I was ones ONa forum addressed "Silly.shtml" - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2003 - 21:39 UTC
                        • That was dodgy. - lysithea - July 6, 2003 - 23:19 UTC
                        • My post was pertinent, accurate, honest and enough (nt) - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2003 - 23:33 UTC
                          • So was mine - lysithea - July 7, 2003 - 00:56 UTC
                            • The wink admits you are kidding, I hope. - carefuluniverse - July 7, 2003 - 01:10 UTC
              • I can feel spirts - hsl242 - September 26, 2003 - 05:11 UTC
        • Answers to your questions - nahla - July 5, 2003 - 16:52 UTC
• Personal, maybe: Who's your prophet? - trinn - July 1, 2003 - 17:52 UTC
  • Jeanne Dixon - budbock - July 1, 2003 - 19:07 UTC
    • Mine's not one of those... - lysithea - July 1, 2003 - 19:39 UTC
  • Islam doesn't have living prophets - nahla - July 2, 2003 - 23:17 UTC