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Re: God Is Not Needed.

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Posted by Mario Dovalina on January 19, 2001 01:50:20 UTC

OK. I admit that god (note the diminutive) is not neccesary for the function of the universe on a day to day basis. Only a fool would claim to see god's direct intervention in the world when science can explain it empirically. But where, then, did the universe come from, before as far as we can tell, anything was? It seems that creation needs a creator.

Excellent original post, rich, BTW. Arguing against fundamentalist types is like talking to a brick wall. I have never, EVER had a theological discussion where the religious one ever had a valid argument to make. Religion is the last artifact of a dead culture.

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Speak for your self Brother! - jisbond - January 19, 2001 - 16:45 UTC
- Grrrrrr.... - stormcrow - January 20, 2001 - 02:01 UTC
  - A continuation of the previous post - stormcrow - January 20, 2001 - 02:03 UTC
  - Something for the Greedy materialists/atheists out there!! - jisbond - January 20, 2001 - 04:14 UTC
    - I rest my case. - stormcrow - January 20, 2001 - 04:20 UTC
      - It is frustrating for you not to see - jisbond - January 20, 2001 - 04:48 UTC
        
        Re: It is frustrating for you not to see - stormcrow - January 20, 2001 - 15:39 UTC
        
        Re: It is frustrating for you not to see - jisbond - January 20, 2001 - 20:17 UTC
        
        I'm sure Stormcrow has met many like Jisbond! - richard - January 20, 2001 - 20:25 UTC
        
        Re: I'm sure Stormcrow has met many like Jisbond! - jisbond - January 21, 2001 - 03:08 UTC
        
        Rest assured - gwynj - January 20, 2001 - 22:36 UTC
    - For You Who Choose To Believe: - jisbond - January 20, 2001 - 04:39 UTC
      - Didn't True Puritans... - richard - January 20, 2001 - 20:27 UTC
        
        Re: Didn't True Puritans... - gwynj - January 20, 2001 - 22:29 UTC
        
        Re: Re: Didn't True Puritans... - richard - January 21, 2001 - 01:46 UTC
        
        Re: Re: Re: Didn't True Puritans... - gwynj - January 21, 2001 - 19:57 UTC
        
        Re: Didn't True Puritans... - jisbond - January 21, 2001 - 02:59 UTC
      - good for you, perfect Atri - gwynj - January 20, 2001 - 22:13 UTC
        
        Re: good for me: The imperfect Atri - jisbond - January 21, 2001 - 02:41 UTC
        
        I think the dolt may want to read some... - richard - January 21, 2001 - 18:44 UTC
        
        Re: I think the dolt may want to read some... - gwynj - January 21, 2001 - 19:53 UTC
        
        Do you really have to ask? - richard - January 22, 2001 - 17:40 UTC
        
        Re: Do you really have to ask? - gwynj - January 23, 2001 - 23:54 UTC
      - What are these impurities/pure love... - philosofir - January 23, 2001 - 16:48 UTC
    - "Seek and ye shall find!" - richard - January 20, 2001 - 20:23 UTC
    - greed vs need - philosofir - January 23, 2001 - 16:38 UTC
  - look back..... - jisbond - January 20, 2001 - 05:01 UTC
  - Re: Grrrrrr.... - gwynj - January 20, 2001 - 22:05 UTC
    - Re: Grrrrrr.... - jisbond - January 21, 2001 - 02:31 UTC
    - And I admire your rationality. But let me pose a question. - stormcrow - January 21, 2001 - 23:58 UTC
      - I believe because I'm very demanding - gwynj - January 22, 2001 - 01:36 UTC
        
        Time to play devil's advocate. - stormcrow - January 22, 2001 - 03:12 UTC
        
        Re: Time to play devil's advocate. - yanniru - January 22, 2001 - 12:56 UTC
        
        legitimate questions - gwynj - January 23, 2001 - 23:50 UTC
        
        Re: legitimate questions - stormcrow - January 24, 2001 - 03:26 UTC
        
        Re: Re: legitimate questions - gwynj - January 25, 2001 - 01:26 UTC
        
        I guess we have to agree to disagree - stormcrow - January 26, 2001 - 01:49 UTC
        
        Well to parallel faith with weakness... - richard - January 26, 2001 - 17:46 UTC
        
        maybe you can explain, then - gwynj - January 27, 2001 - 02:19 UTC
        
        Re: I guess we have to agree to disagree - gwynj - January 27, 2001 - 02:10 UTC
        
        Oh! and maybe... - gwynj - January 27, 2001 - 03:32 UTC
        
        Yeah, maybe that wasn't the best choice of words - stormcrow - January 27, 2001 - 19:36 UTC
        
        well, you know how it is... - gwynj - January 27, 2001 - 20:50 UTC
        
        Re: well, you know how it is... - stormcrow - January 28, 2001 - 06:16 UTC
        
        you haven't really proven - gwynj - January 28, 2001 - 06:37 UTC

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