I sometimes find myself wonderring what the afterlife could be like. What are your guys' personal oppinions?

What do you think hell really is... fire & brimstone and eternal torture, or a frightening nightmare you just can never seem to wake up from. Or perhaps hell is coming back to Earth as a psychotic mental case with little or no control over mind and body, and living your entire life stringed up to a bed post in a padded room. On the same token, you could be falsly convicted of murder and spend your life cooped up in a dirty 6x8 cell with unpredictable blood thirsty and sex crazed rapists and muderers. Or could hell, in your oppinion, be something worse yet?

I myself believe hell to be a timeless nightmare. No fire, no red-skinned bad guy with horns... just hopelessness, intense fear, confusion, anarchy, emotional pain, guilt, possibly visions of deformed figures and terrifying apparitions (remember the girl from The Excorsist)... that's how I've always imagined it.

Does anybody believe in redemption and second chance? or is hell an eternity -no questions asked-? Perhaps some don't even believe in hell at all.

Forgive me for focusing only on the negative aspect of the afterlife, but Heaven seems too easy to envision... there's only one choice, and that's eternal paradise and bliss. It's either that, or you don't believe in heaven at all. Hell, on the other hand, could take on many different forms in the imagination.

Any religous/philosophical input...?

• Just my speculation - harvey1 - October 17, 2001 - 18:37 UTC
  • No afterlife allowed by laws of nature. - alexander - October 17, 2001 - 20:15 UTC
    • Big Ice Cream Scooper - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 02:25 UTC
      • Harvey , ice cream scooper also obeys math. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 15:05 UTC
        • So then you admit - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 15:18 UTC
          • There is no logic here. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 15:31 UTC
            • Your position is a metaphysical position - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 16:25 UTC
              • Harvey, it sems that actually YOUR position is metaphysical. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 16:59 UTC
                • Reduce this further - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 17:35 UTC
            • Metaphysical laws of nature... - smartguy - October 18, 2001 - 16:57 UTC
              • You grasped what I'm saying - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 17:12 UTC
                • I see...(nt) - smartguy - October 18, 2001 - 17:27 UTC
              • Metaphysical speculation - pmartin - October 18, 2001 - 18:25 UTC
                • Some sophistication added? - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 18:40 UTC
                  • Definitely added; thanks for calling it sophistication. - pmartin - October 18, 2001 - 21:03 UTC
                    • Oops! Time warp. - pmartin - October 18, 2001 - 21:13 UTC
    • In the axions of dark matter - yanniru - October 18, 2001 - 14:01 UTC
      • Dark matter? - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 14:37 UTC
        • Richard, if your hypothesis can not be proven, discard it. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 15:36 UTC
          • The same goes for your hypothesis - yanniru - October 18, 2001 - 16:02 UTC
        • Because that's how you do metaphysics - yanniru - October 18, 2001 - 16:23 UTC
          • I agree, but... - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 16:29 UTC
            • But Harv... - smartguy - October 18, 2001 - 17:23 UTC
              • Well... - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 18:14 UTC
                • Hot & cold dark matter - yanniru - October 18, 2001 - 20:16 UTC
                  • The magical part - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 20:31 UTC
                    • Quantum computer magic - yanniru - October 19, 2001 - 14:54 UTC
                      • Bose-Einstein condensate - harvey1 - October 19, 2001 - 15:08 UTC
                        • What? Bose condensate is known for long time. - alexander - October 19, 2001 - 18:28 UTC
                          • I'm talking about the discovery that got them the nobel prize - harvey1 - October 19, 2001 - 18:36 UTC
                          • Agreed. It has to be more complex - yanniru - October 20, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
                  • Richard, to store information,these particles have to be ordered - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 20:34 UTC
                    • BEC storage is forever - yanniru - October 19, 2001 - 14:44 UTC
                      • You're insinuating that intergalactic matter... - smartguy - October 19, 2001 - 18:11 UTC
                        • Dark matter is very poor candidate in consciouseness. - alexander - October 19, 2001 - 19:00 UTC
                          • Great idea Alex, just one minor detail to overcome... - smartguy - October 19, 2001 - 19:17 UTC
                            • Mark,this was the same joke others post (about consciouseness). - alexander - October 19, 2001 - 19:39 UTC
                              • I was just happy to see you use the word "God" - smartguy - October 19, 2001 - 20:04 UTC
                            • The universe expands - harvey1 - October 19, 2001 - 20:30 UTC
                              • Harv, an eternalist would say... - smartguy - October 20, 2001 - 01:04 UTC
                            • Philosophy talk and science talk - harvey1 - October 20, 2001 - 13:43 UTC
                          • Got you on this one, Alexander - yanniru - October 20, 2001 - 20:16 UTC
                        • Mark, you are right and it's called god(NT) - yanniru - October 20, 2001 - 20:17 UTC
• What's it like? - doctordick - October 17, 2001 - 21:19 UTC
  • Richard... - smartguy - October 17, 2001 - 21:44 UTC
    • Sure, no problem! - doctordick - October 18, 2001 - 18:29 UTC
      • No, no, no... - smartguy - October 18, 2001 - 19:10 UTC
        • Mark, I was trying to be funny! (nt) - doctordick - October 18, 2001 - 19:25 UTC
          • Guys, consider this. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 19:53 UTC
            • Whose definition? - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 19:57 UTC
              • Incorrect definition. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 20:13 UTC
                • Definition incorrect - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 20:39 UTC
              • Alex I have to agree with Harv on this one... - smartguy - October 18, 2001 - 20:19 UTC
                • Mark, what do you mean by consciouseness? Nt - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 22:56 UTC
                  • Lucid mental capacity - smartguy - October 19, 2001 - 04:06 UTC
                  • Alex, are you aware ...? - doctordick - October 19, 2001 - 16:03 UTC
                    • Some differences - harvey1 - October 19, 2001 - 17:00 UTC
                    • Alex thinks the soul is generated... - smartguy - October 19, 2001 - 17:21 UTC