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Posted by Alexander on July 5, 2001 18:06:04 UTC

Once again, if you are familiar with the origin of natural laws (physics), you do not need god(s),devil(s), etc.

For anyone else, Santa Claus the Creator, or Allah the good ruler, or Satan the bad one, or Jesus the peacemaker, or even Zeus the thundermaker is JUST FINE.

After all, most people on Earth are NOT physics educated, moreover - even some physicists are not educated enough about fundamentals.

So, just stick to most convenient for you explanation of why, say, Sun crosses the sky - whether it is Ra pushing it, or God telling it to do so, or rotating Earth.

After all - who cares?

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To exist or not to exist - aurino - July 5, 2001 - 19:03 UTC
- Please define "conscious" before we discuss this. - alexander - July 5, 2001 - 19:14 UTC
  - A practical, logical, non-dogmatic approach - aurino - July 5, 2001 - 20:44 UTC
    - Answer on all your questions depend on what you call consciouse. - alexander - July 5, 2001 - 21:08 UTC
      - More about consciouseness. - alexander - July 5, 2001 - 22:46 UTC
        
        A computer is not conscience. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 01:16 UTC
        
        Another thing about Computers. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 01:22 UTC
        
        Another thing about biology - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 01:40 UTC
        
        Human's are no where near that simple - highvoltage - July 6, 2001 - 01:48 UTC
        
        I oversimplified, but the premise is the same - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 02:08 UTC
        
        Not exaclty. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 04:03 UTC
        
        I agree with you on the level of complexity - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 04:17 UTC
        
        Not crossed wires - highvoltage - July 6, 2001 - 05:39 UTC
        
        I disagree about you saying that pople have no free-will. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 05:50 UTC
        
        Actually atomic bomb was against Stalin's growing power. - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 16:58 UTC
        
        It was a choice nontheless - caprinicus - July 7, 2001 - 00:23 UTC
        
        Even you typing this reply was a choice, not a necessity. - caprinicus - July 7, 2001 - 00:34 UTC
        
        Not neccesarily - stormcrow - July 7, 2001 - 02:34 UTC
        
        I don't think so - highvoltage - July 7, 2001 - 03:32 UTC
        
        Free will works regardless of normal DNA in humans. - caprinicus - July 7, 2001 - 03:52 UTC
        
        I'll try and explain - stormcrow - July 7, 2001 - 13:55 UTC
        
        Wrong again. - caprinicus - July 8, 2001 - 13:08 UTC
        
        Omni-Post - stormcrow - July 9, 2001 - 00:17 UTC
        
        God-days may be true - highvoltage - July 9, 2001 - 05:22 UTC
        
        Sure, back it up - stormcrow - July 9, 2001 - 13:40 UTC
        
        God days.... - highvoltage - July 9, 2001 - 17:07 UTC
        
        I see your point, but doesn't this prove the Bible's ambiguity? - stormcrow - July 9, 2001 - 19:31 UTC
        
        Doens't prove the bible's ambiguity - highvoltage - July 9, 2001 - 20:16 UTC
        
        Bible is full of impossible phenomena. - alexander - July 9, 2001 - 20:43 UTC
        
        again proof - terry - November 15, 2001 - 12:36 UTC
        
        Caprinicus - you don't know how brain, universe, etc works. - alexander - July 9, 2001 - 18:43 UTC
        
        Here's the difference - aurino - July 6, 2001 - 13:55 UTC
        
        NOT ALL BRAIN CELLS are speech, image and sound related. - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 17:11 UTC
      - Can you answer the question or not? - aurino - July 6, 2001 - 12:58 UTC
        
        Am I conscious? How do I know if consciouseness is undefined? - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 17:14 UTC
        
        A surreal dialogue - aurino - July 6, 2001 - 17:35 UTC
        
        Primitive example. - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 17:41 UTC
        
        Even though I disagree, that was pretty funny. (nt) - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 17:47 UTC
Metaphysical position to the max - harvey1 - July 5, 2001 - 23:47 UTC
- Is energy conservation a natural law or not? - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 00:26 UTC
  - Energy conservation is an observed regularity of nature (nt) - harvey1 - July 6, 2001 - 14:05 UTC
    - So, you answered your question. - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 17:16 UTC
      - So - harvey1 - July 6, 2001 - 22:45 UTC
        
        No, I am trying to explain you origin of natural laws. - alexander - July 9, 2001 - 19:21 UTC
        
        re: Universes that pop out of math books - harvey1 - July 9, 2001 - 22:26 UTC
        
        On a small scale universe is quantum (i.e, everything fluctuates - alexander - July 10, 2001 - 18:38 UTC
        
        Hmmm... - harvey1 - July 10, 2001 - 20:16 UTC
        
        No, you just need mathematical waves. - alexander - July 10, 2001 - 20:22 UTC
        
        Please explain - harvey1 - July 10, 2001 - 20:37 UTC
        
        I already did that, but can go over again. - alexander - July 10, 2001 - 21:53 UTC
        
        Need more explanation - harvey1 - July 10, 2001 - 22:58 UTC
        
        Correction - harvey1 - July 10, 2001 - 23:01 UTC
        
        Well, do you want me to explain most of physics and math here? - alexander - July 11, 2001 - 00:57 UTC
        
        Alex, your input! - doctordick - July 11, 2001 - 03:18 UTC
        
        Smoke and mirrors - harvey1 - July 11, 2001 - 14:21 UTC
        
        Gods hiding in tons of smoke and evils behind every mirror. - alexander - July 11, 2001 - 18:50 UTC
        
        God doesn't need to hide - harvey1 - July 11, 2001 - 21:03 UTC
        
        So, where is it (God) if he does NOT need to hide. - alexander - July 16, 2001 - 21:59 UTC
        
        Pardon me for butting in - yanniru - July 16, 2001 - 22:42 UTC
        
        The laws aren't stored - harvey1 - July 17, 2001 - 16:51 UTC
        
        Then the divine order is the storage mechanism - yanniru - July 18, 2001 - 11:58 UTC
        
        A little Explanation! - doctordick - July 11, 2001 - 03:14 UTC
        
        Thanks, Dick - harvey1 - July 11, 2001 - 14:18 UTC
        
        Origin of Plank constant value is not known yet. - alexander - July 11, 2001 - 19:08 UTC
        
        On Plank's constant! - doctordick - July 12, 2001 - 19:30 UTC
        
        I do not understand - yanniru - July 12, 2001 - 21:35 UTC
        
        Do the problem! - doctordick - July 12, 2001 - 23:17 UTC
        
        Circular is arbitrary - yanniru - July 14, 2001 - 18:19 UTC
        
        Question to Richard Stafford about c and h. - alexander - July 16, 2001 - 21:30 UTC
        
        Apparently you pay no attention! - doctordick - July 17, 2001 - 15:10 UTC
        
        Dick - harvey1 - July 17, 2001 - 16:43 UTC
        
        To Harv, - doctordick - July 17, 2001 - 19:31 UTC
        
        Why are you not credible with those who know math? - yanniru - July 18, 2001 - 12:00 UTC
        
        I am not sure what you mean. - doctordick - July 18, 2001 - 14:02 UTC
        
        I look at your assumptions - yanniru - July 19, 2001 - 12:20 UTC

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