If consciouseness is a complexity, then all complex system are conscious by this definition. If consciouseness is defined as a complexity of carbon-based molecular systems, then say, computers are ruled out, and so on.

That is why before we discuss concsious protons and electrons we should at least know WHAT IS THAT we are talking about (=define what EXACTLY we mean by consciouseness). Othervise we are bound to ambiguity: you call atom conscious but I do not think so.

• More about consciouseness. - alexander - July 5, 2001 - 22:46 UTC
  • A computer is not conscience. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 01:16 UTC
  • Another thing about Computers. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 01:22 UTC
    • Another thing about biology - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 01:40 UTC
      • Human's are no where near that simple - highvoltage - July 6, 2001 - 01:48 UTC
        • I oversimplified, but the premise is the same - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 02:08 UTC
          • Not exaclty. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 04:03 UTC
            • I agree with you on the level of complexity - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 04:17 UTC
              • Not crossed wires - highvoltage - July 6, 2001 - 05:39 UTC
              • I disagree about you saying that pople have no free-will. - motumos - July 6, 2001 - 05:50 UTC
                • Actually atomic bomb was against Stalin's growing power. - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 16:58 UTC
                  • It was a choice nontheless - caprinicus - July 7, 2001 - 00:23 UTC
                  • Even you typing this reply was a choice, not a necessity. - caprinicus - July 7, 2001 - 00:34 UTC
                    • Not neccesarily - stormcrow - July 7, 2001 - 02:34 UTC
                      • I don't think so - highvoltage - July 7, 2001 - 03:32 UTC
                      • Free will works regardless of normal DNA in humans. - caprinicus - July 7, 2001 - 03:52 UTC
                        • I'll try and explain - stormcrow - July 7, 2001 - 13:55 UTC
                          • Wrong again. - caprinicus - July 8, 2001 - 13:08 UTC
                            • Omni-Post - stormcrow - July 9, 2001 - 00:17 UTC
                              • God-days may be true - highvoltage - July 9, 2001 - 05:22 UTC
                                • Sure, back it up - stormcrow - July 9, 2001 - 13:40 UTC
                                  • God days.... - highvoltage - July 9, 2001 - 17:07 UTC
                                    • I see your point, but doesn't this prove the Bible's ambiguity? - stormcrow - July 9, 2001 - 19:31 UTC
                                      • Doens't prove the bible's ambiguity - highvoltage - July 9, 2001 - 20:16 UTC
                                        • Bible is full of impossible phenomena. - alexander - July 9, 2001 - 20:43 UTC
                                          • again proof - terry - November 15, 2001 - 12:36 UTC
                            • Caprinicus - you don't know how brain, universe, etc works. - alexander - July 9, 2001 - 18:43 UTC
      • Here's the difference - aurino - July 6, 2001 - 13:55 UTC
        • NOT ALL BRAIN CELLS are speech, image and sound related. - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 17:11 UTC
• Can you answer the question or not? - aurino - July 6, 2001 - 12:58 UTC
  • Am I conscious? How do I know if consciouseness is undefined? - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 17:14 UTC
    • A surreal dialogue - aurino - July 6, 2001 - 17:35 UTC
      • Primitive example. - alexander - July 6, 2001 - 17:41 UTC
      • Even though I disagree, that was pretty funny. (nt) - stormcrow - July 6, 2001 - 17:47 UTC