Hi Tim
Sounds like you are a professional like Aurino,
so your ideas are taken seriously.

You wrote:
"the nature of God is by definition beyond mankinds knowing"

Then you wrote that God's nature is "STILL"
"timeless" "unchanging" "SPIRIT"

Since you have said mankind cannot know
but apparently Tim can know God's nature, are you saying Tim is not of Mankind?


Tim wrote"
"in the affairs of mankind there is a concept called morality and it is a concept that one can easily argue about one way or the other. morality is a measure of a man's spirit. the final arbitrater of what is morale is God."

I am not convinced God cares at all about morality. (S)He said "Thou Shalt Not Kill" in the Jewish 10 Commandments. But on the radio I hear the Jewish talk show hosts cheering for mega-bomb war alternately with spouting their views on everyone else's morality. Morality is
a fairly slimy and disreputable word compared to
TRUTH. In fact, it is a word often used by folks for whom TRUTH is the worst enemy. (Present company excepted, I hope)

Anyway, if God is unchanging, I don't se how
(S)He can stir Himself to arbitrate anything.
Action cannot be performed without changing
SOMETHING.

What say you now?
Mike

• i say.... - sagefr0g - April 10, 2003 - 00:32 UTC
  • Interesting thoughts, please forgive this short responce... - phillipmartin - April 10, 2003 - 03:59 UTC
    • There is no direct connection between religion and 'believing' - quiet - April 10, 2003 - 04:23 UTC
      • there you go - sagefr0g - April 13, 2003 - 01:38 UTC
        • Thanks, Tim . . . nice to hear from you - quiet - April 16, 2003 - 16:10 UTC
          • ditto - sagefr0g - April 17, 2003 - 03:15 UTC
    • don't blame God for religion - sagefr0g - April 12, 2003 - 01:14 UTC
      • inconsistency is no hobgoblin for you I see - quiet - April 12, 2003 - 04:29 UTC
        • inconsistency is no hobgoblin for me - sagefr0g - April 13, 2003 - 01:29 UTC
      • does that mean that God exists, but not good or evil? - phillipmartin - April 28, 2003 - 06:20 UTC
        • i've asked myself that same exact question - sagefr0g - April 29, 2003 - 04:13 UTC
  • You say "the nature of god" and "God's nature is" are different? - quiet - April 10, 2003 - 04:17 UTC
    • example of entropy and communication - sagefr0g - April 10, 2003 - 09:50 UTC
      • Do you want to get aboard? - quiet - April 11, 2003 - 02:39 UTC
        • i'm game - sagefr0g - April 11, 2003 - 04:02 UTC
        • If I have to be quoted for saying that - quiet - April 11, 2003 - 05:34 UTC
          • semi-coherent idea - sagefr0g - April 11, 2003 - 09:41 UTC