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Posted by Alexander on December 11, 2001 23:16:53 UTC

It seems that computers are now evolving very fast, and are superior than human brain in many areas (especially when it comes to math).

May be it is time to think about how soon will we see some AI software which is self-aware?

What is self-awareness, by the way? How would you define self-awareness?

Is self-diagnostics software self-aware?

Is Windows operation system self-aware?
May be, 1% self-aware? Or 10%?

If not, what does it (current software) lack to become self aware?

Follow Ups:

I am barely self-aware - yanniru - December 12, 2001 - 14:46 UTC
- Richard, because computers will be much more complex than human, - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 18:10 UTC
  - They will have to learn how to redesign - yanniru - December 13, 2001 - 19:45 UTC
    - So, should we call complexity a soul? - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 23:18 UTC
      - Is a sperm cell conscious? - smartguy - December 14, 2001 - 06:28 UTC
        
        Life begins with brain waves - yanniru - December 14, 2001 - 14:22 UTC
        
        Development of embryo repeats (to some degree) evolution. - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 14:52 UTC
        
        Limits of our area of Expertise??? - ymateen - December 14, 2001 - 15:34 UTC
        
        Order is were math equations result in it. - alexander - December 16, 2001 - 17:21 UTC
- Love...As Jethro Clampett says, "What's my motor-vation?" - carefuluniverse - December 16, 2001 - 07:57 UTC
Have you heard of Searle's Chinese Room? - harvey1 - December 12, 2001 - 18:02 UTC
- Just who is aware here? - doctordick - December 12, 2001 - 18:09 UTC
  - Exactly - stormcrow - December 12, 2001 - 20:56 UTC
    - I'd bet on the virus... - pmartin - December 14, 2001 - 01:01 UTC
      - Well, so a virus is more conscious than Deep Blue? - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 02:03 UTC
        
        I don't know; it was only a guess. - pmartin - December 14, 2001 - 05:24 UTC
        
        Paul,no driver is needed to"drive"uncertainty. Math does it all - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 15:45 UTC
        
        Maybe yes; maybe no. - pmartin - December 15, 2001 - 03:16 UTC
        
        When I ask where is higher dimension, I mean its signature. - alexander - December 16, 2001 - 17:51 UTC
        
        It's called "TIME." Not hard to imagine... at least for me. - luis_hamburgh - December 16, 2001 - 22:24 UTC
        
        Hey, I love Einstein's sctick, but Newton not a 'crock' - carefuluniverse - December 16, 2001 - 23:30 UTC
        
        Luis, any equation to support your nut claim? - alexander - December 17, 2001 - 21:24 UTC
        
        Don't have a stroke, old man -- I need you to stick around! - luis_hamburgh - December 18, 2001 - 23:01 UTC
        
        What about the problem? - phillipmartin - December 19, 2001 - 19:08 UTC
        
        You didn't comment on my answer - pmartin - December 17, 2001 - 06:44 UTC
        
        Paul, cosmologists investigated it long ago. - alexander - December 17, 2001 - 21:43 UTC
        
        Okay. Thanks Alex. (nt) - pmartin - December 18, 2001 - 01:31 UTC
        
        Wait... wait... wait... Alex is retracting himself? - luis_hamburgh - December 18, 2001 - 23:07 UTC
        
        Woah... - bladesinger - December 19, 2001 - 02:44 UTC
      - Robots and "fake people"... - smartguy - December 14, 2001 - 06:56 UTC
        
        Mark, clone identical biorobot (twin) and ask him. - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 15:57 UTC
        
        His answer wouldn't be convincing. - pmartin - December 15, 2001 - 03:29 UTC
        
        Do you understand what "identical" means? - alexander - December 16, 2001 - 18:01 UTC
        
        Yes, Alex, but I missed it. Sorry. - pmartin - December 17, 2001 - 06:59 UTC
        
        The more identical machine - the close the feeling. - alexander - December 17, 2001 - 21:49 UTC
        
        The same goes for a radio - pmartin - December 18, 2001 - 01:38 UTC
        
        yes, the more complex is system,the more hard to exactly copy it - alexander - December 20, 2001 - 00:25 UTC
- harvey, have you (and other philosophers) heard of logic? - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 18:03 UTC
  - Is that your counterargument? - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 19:03 UTC
    - No, that was to show you that BOTH human and computers may think - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 19:20 UTC
      - Then I don't you understood Searle - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 19:25 UTC
        
        Define thinking and understanting then. (nt) - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 19:30 UTC
        
        I defined thinking in the above post - yanniru - December 13, 2001 - 19:46 UTC
        
        Answer Searle's thought experiment then (nt) - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 20:06 UTC
        
        Searles computer did not think about itself - yanniru - December 14, 2001 - 14:23 UTC
        
        Sure - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 20:13 UTC
        
        What makes our understanding any different than a computer's? - phillipmartin - December 13, 2001 - 22:20 UTC
        
        Before we make Matrix and Terminator a reality - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 22:37 UTC
        
        Harv, DNA IS programming - stormcrow - December 13, 2001 - 22:57 UTC
        
        Mario is correct. It is complexity which makes biorobot a human. - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 23:42 UTC
        
        Understanding? - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 23:58 UTC
        
        Simple system - less understanding. Complex-more. - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 02:07 UTC
        
        Understanding = knowledge + correct prediction. - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 02:15 UTC
        
        Ask yourself - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 02:46 UTC
        
        harvey, how hard do you think add emotions to Deep Blue? - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 03:21 UTC
        
        You are simply not logical! - doctordick - December 14, 2001 - 14:48 UTC
        
        Not true - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 16:04 UTC
        
        Yeah, Harv can think and computers can't...yet? - carefuluniverse - December 15, 2001 - 07:24 UTC
        
        Informal operations deserve more doubt,, & a little "slack" too - carefuluniverse - December 16, 2001 - 08:02 UTC
        
        What are we talking? - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 04:32 UTC
        
        This is just more out and out logical garbage! - doctordick - December 14, 2001 - 15:37 UTC
        
        Testy testy - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 17:04 UTC
        
        Programmers are people too - aurino - December 14, 2001 - 17:32 UTC
        
        I don't see your comments as letting me down! - doctordick - December 14, 2001 - 19:24 UTC
        
        LOL - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 19:28 UTC
        
        It's not what you say, Harv - aurino - December 14, 2001 - 20:12 UTC
        
        I don't get it - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
        
        I am going to have to agree with alex. - bladesinger - December 15, 2001 - 03:06 UTC
        
        It all boils down to the old soul argument, I think - stormcrow - December 15, 2001 - 04:56 UTC
        
        Yup NT - bladesinger - December 15, 2001 - 07:37 UTC
        
        There is truth. - phillipmartin - December 19, 2001 - 19:42 UTC
        
        I'm guessing we can - harvey1 - December 15, 2001 - 12:58 UTC
        
        What about... - bladesinger - December 16, 2001 - 05:43 UTC
        
        life at the virus level is more complex than human dogma - carefuluniverse - December 16, 2001 - 01:32 UTC
        
        That is a hypothesis - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 23:51 UTC
        
        Yes, it is the most logical hypothesis - stormcrow - December 14, 2001 - 00:53 UTC
        
        This doesn't matter - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 02:59 UTC
        
        Gut Reaction - stormcrow - December 14, 2001 - 06:50 UTC
        
        Refuting your gut reaction - pmartin - December 16, 2001 - 01:04 UTC
        
        Howdy - stormcrow - December 16, 2001 - 01:43 UTC
        
        Oops - stormcrow - December 16, 2001 - 01:54 UTC
        
        Howdy - pmartin - December 17, 2001 - 07:47 UTC
        
        Clearing the Air - stormcrow - December 17, 2001 - 23:18 UTC
        
        Thanks for the breath of fresh air - pmartin - December 18, 2001 - 16:37 UTC
        
        Sometimes guts have a way of oozing out - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 13:44 UTC
        
        Meh. - stormcrow - December 15, 2001 - 01:22 UTC
        
        I'm not sure of these divisions - harvey1 - December 15, 2001 - 02:15 UTC
        
        I always figured these were related - stormcrow - December 15, 2001 - 02:42 UTC
        
        Dancing around one word: - bladesinger - December 15, 2001 - 07:55 UTC
        
        The graual fading "line"... - phillipmartin - December 14, 2001 - 01:08 UTC
        
        I meant Deep Blue, not Super Blue. nt - phillipmartin - December 14, 2001 - 01:15 UTC
        
        Computing power? - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 03:18 UTC
        
        Programs do not always stay the same. - phillipmartin - December 14, 2001 - 22:29 UTC
        
        But, even if they don't this is not the way to intentional minds - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 23:31 UTC
        
        Harwey, it seems you don't know what you are talking about. - alexander - December 17, 2001 - 22:58 UTC

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