What he is saying has nothing to do with computation, it has to do with comprehension and understanding. These are not related to computation.

Have you ever written a program that could think and understand? Do you think that when you talk into a voice recognized system that this computer system understands you? What it does is check a table looking for the closest match to your response and an algorithm determines whether your response was close enough to the closest table entry by which to select.

How do you go from this basic data processing operation to comprehension (i.e., how do you answer Searle's Chinese Room thought experiment)?

Warm regards, Harv

• Define thinking and understanting then. (nt) - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 19:30 UTC
  • I defined thinking in the above post - yanniru - December 13, 2001 - 19:46 UTC
    • Answer Searle's thought experiment then (nt) - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 20:06 UTC
      • Searles computer did not think about itself - yanniru - December 14, 2001 - 14:23 UTC
  • Sure - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 20:13 UTC
    • What makes our understanding any different than a computer's? - phillipmartin - December 13, 2001 - 22:20 UTC
      • Before we make Matrix and Terminator a reality - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 22:37 UTC
        • Harv, DNA IS programming - stormcrow - December 13, 2001 - 22:57 UTC
          • Mario is correct. It is complexity which makes biorobot a human. - alexander - December 13, 2001 - 23:42 UTC
            • Understanding? - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 23:58 UTC
              • Simple system - less understanding. Complex-more. - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 02:07 UTC
              • Understanding = knowledge + correct prediction. - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 02:15 UTC
                • Ask yourself - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 02:46 UTC
                  • harvey, how hard do you think add emotions to Deep Blue? - alexander - December 14, 2001 - 03:21 UTC
                  • You are simply not logical! - doctordick - December 14, 2001 - 14:48 UTC
                    • Not true - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 16:04 UTC
                    • Yeah, Harv can think and computers can't...yet? - carefuluniverse - December 15, 2001 - 07:24 UTC
                      • Informal operations deserve more doubt,, & a little "slack" too - carefuluniverse - December 16, 2001 - 08:02 UTC
                • What are we talking? - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 04:32 UTC
                  • This is just more out and out logical garbage! - doctordick - December 14, 2001 - 15:37 UTC
                    • Testy testy - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 17:04 UTC
                    • Programmers are people too - aurino - December 14, 2001 - 17:32 UTC
                      • I don't see your comments as letting me down! - doctordick - December 14, 2001 - 19:24 UTC
                        • LOL - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 19:28 UTC
                          • It's not what you say, Harv - aurino - December 14, 2001 - 20:12 UTC
                            • I don't get it - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
                              • I am going to have to agree with alex. - bladesinger - December 15, 2001 - 03:06 UTC
                                • It all boils down to the old soul argument, I think - stormcrow - December 15, 2001 - 04:56 UTC
                                  • Yup NT - bladesinger - December 15, 2001 - 07:37 UTC
                                  • There is truth. - phillipmartin - December 19, 2001 - 19:42 UTC
                                • I'm guessing we can - harvey1 - December 15, 2001 - 12:58 UTC
                                  • What about... - bladesinger - December 16, 2001 - 05:43 UTC
                                • life at the virus level is more complex than human dogma - carefuluniverse - December 16, 2001 - 01:32 UTC
          • That is a hypothesis - harvey1 - December 13, 2001 - 23:51 UTC
            • Yes, it is the most logical hypothesis - stormcrow - December 14, 2001 - 00:53 UTC
              • This doesn't matter - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 02:59 UTC
                • Gut Reaction - stormcrow - December 14, 2001 - 06:50 UTC
                  • Refuting your gut reaction - pmartin - December 16, 2001 - 01:04 UTC
                    • Howdy - stormcrow - December 16, 2001 - 01:43 UTC
                      • Oops - stormcrow - December 16, 2001 - 01:54 UTC
                        • Howdy - pmartin - December 17, 2001 - 07:47 UTC
                          • Clearing the Air - stormcrow - December 17, 2001 - 23:18 UTC
                            • Thanks for the breath of fresh air - pmartin - December 18, 2001 - 16:37 UTC
              • Sometimes guts have a way of oozing out - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 13:44 UTC
                • Meh. - stormcrow - December 15, 2001 - 01:22 UTC
                  • I'm not sure of these divisions - harvey1 - December 15, 2001 - 02:15 UTC
                    • I always figured these were related - stormcrow - December 15, 2001 - 02:42 UTC
                      • Dancing around one word: - bladesinger - December 15, 2001 - 07:55 UTC
        • The graual fading "line"... - phillipmartin - December 14, 2001 - 01:08 UTC
          • I meant Deep Blue, not Super Blue. nt - phillipmartin - December 14, 2001 - 01:15 UTC
          • Computing power? - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 03:18 UTC
            • Programs do not always stay the same. - phillipmartin - December 14, 2001 - 22:29 UTC
              • But, even if they don't this is not the way to intentional minds - harvey1 - December 14, 2001 - 23:31 UTC
                • Harwey, it seems you don't know what you are talking about. - alexander - December 17, 2001 - 22:58 UTC