He WAS, however, the only one who started in Heaven and came to give his life, God's firstborn and only begotten son, to whom the Old Test refers many times and became true in the New Test with a probability of it happening in one human about 1 chance in 10 to the 18th power.

do you suppose that many people have lived on earth already? or at least by 2000 years ago?

• Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - louielouie - February 9, 2001 - 14:55 UTC
  • Re: Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - louielouie - February 9, 2001 - 14:59 UTC
    • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - alexander - February 9, 2001 - 20:54 UTC
      • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - louielouie - February 10, 2001 - 06:13 UTC
        • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 20:36 UTC
• Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - yanniru - February 9, 2001 - 18:46 UTC
  • Re: Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - yanniru - February 9, 2001 - 18:51 UTC
    • please clarify - gwynj - February 9, 2001 - 18:56 UTC
      • Re: please clarify - yanniru - February 9, 2001 - 19:00 UTC
        • thanks - gwynj - February 9, 2001 - 19:04 UTC
          • Re: thanks - louielouie - February 10, 2001 - 04:12 UTC
            • Jesus was falsified. - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 19:23 UTC
        • found these NT references - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 18:31 UTC
          • Theology forum? - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 19:20 UTC
            • Re: Theology forum? - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 19:36 UTC
              • Theology forum? - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 20:22 UTC
                • likewise, i'm sure - gwynj - February 11, 2001 - 20:27 UTC
                  • Thanks. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 20:11 UTC
                    • ditto. - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 21:15 UTC
                      • Fencing what? - alexander - February 13, 2001 - 03:14 UTC
                        • in the sport of fencing - gwynj - February 13, 2001 - 22:21 UTC
  • Re: Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - gwynj - February 9, 2001 - 18:52 UTC
    • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How has the world changed because of Jesus? - yanniru - February 9, 2001 - 18:54 UTC
      • no problem - gwynj - February 9, 2001 - 18:58 UTC
        • Re: no problem - louielouie - February 10, 2001 - 03:31 UTC
          • Human nature. - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
            • and guinea pigs - gwynj - February 11, 2001 - 20:24 UTC
              • And chicken, and fox, etc... - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 20:09 UTC
                • huh? - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 21:14 UTC
                  • Re: huh? - alexander - February 13, 2001 - 03:12 UTC
  • in reading - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 18:25 UTC
    • Reinterpreting His words. - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 19:15 UTC
      • he asked what was said - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 19:19 UTC
        • Lie+lie=thruth? - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 19:24 UTC
          • are you defending the BIBLE? - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 19:30 UTC
            • Lie+lie="the truth"? - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 19:42 UTC
              • how much - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 19:44 UTC
                • Fairy myths are good. But you have to grow. - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 20:19 UTC
                  • interesting. too bad it's wasted. - gwynj - February 11, 2001 - 20:23 UTC
                    • If that's true, what's the alternative? - stormcrow - February 12, 2001 - 15:24 UTC
                      • to some, that's enough - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 15:30 UTC
                        • When brain ages, we get all more primitive. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 20:07 UTC
                          • so let's all go play - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 21:10 UTC
                            • We all should. - alexander - February 13, 2001 - 00:08 UTC
                        • True - stormcrow - February 12, 2001 - 20:29 UTC
                          • same as choice - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 21:08 UTC
  • and another - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 18:47 UTC
    • "Interpreting" what He meant. - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 19:13 UTC
      • Re: you're delighted with your science - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 19:17 UTC
        • There is not much science here, just more and more lies. - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 19:47 UTC
          • Re: There is not much science here, just more and more lies. - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 20:09 UTC
            • There is not much science here, just more and more lies. - alexander - February 10, 2001 - 20:24 UTC
              • not all people do - gwynj - February 11, 2001 - 20:20 UTC
                • Most people lie. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 19:58 UTC
                  • yes. - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 21:05 UTC
                    • I respect this answer. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 23:43 UTC
                      • i think it does - gwynj - February 13, 2001 - 22:18 UTC
            • Wow, I've never seen you get pissed off before! :) - stormcrow - February 11, 2001 - 02:35 UTC
              • not p.o.'d, just trying to understand - gwynj - February 11, 2001 - 20:19 UTC
      • Re:Isaiah 42:13 - dwhollrah - February 11, 2001 - 04:13 UTC
        • thanks - gwynj - February 11, 2001 - 20:16 UTC
          • You have to wait a little with the party. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 19:54 UTC
            • But - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 21:03 UTC
              • The Son is already dim. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 23:40 UTC
                • again - gwynj - February 13, 2001 - 22:13 UTC
                  • Yes, you have right to disagree with 2x2=4 - alexander - February 15, 2001 - 02:41 UTC
                    • likewise, i'm sure. - gwynj - February 17, 2001 - 04:40 UTC
                      • Without education is like without brain. - alexander - February 17, 2001 - 11:00 UTC
                        • to what do you attribute - gwynj - February 17, 2001 - 22:16 UTC
        • a little confusion - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 14:54 UTC
    • Maybe the Whole Bible is Symbolic - johnpowell - February 12, 2001 - 13:06 UTC
      • I couldn't tell you - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 14:56 UTC
        • Yes, that is why we have science (versus scriptures). - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 19:49 UTC
          • what about Science AND Scriptures? - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 21:02 UTC
            • No objection against correct scriptures. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 23:38 UTC
              • but wouldn't science still - gwynj - February 13, 2001 - 22:15 UTC
                • Man is still evolving (and a lot to go). - alexander - February 15, 2001 - 02:36 UTC
                  • math laws - gwynj - February 17, 2001 - 04:38 UTC
                    • Math governs the Universe without any need of God. - alexander - February 17, 2001 - 10:28 UTC
                      • the one I know does - gwynj - February 17, 2001 - 22:12 UTC
        • Bible or Shakespeare? - johnpowell - February 13, 2001 - 17:12 UTC
          • 3/4 right - gwynj - February 13, 2001 - 22:12 UTC
            • You're not a member, right? - johnpowell - February 13, 2001 - 23:53 UTC
              • Re: You're not a member, right? - gwynj - February 17, 2001 - 04:17 UTC
• Where does 10^-18 come from? - alexander - February 9, 2001 - 20:41 UTC
  • Re: Where does 10^-18 come from? - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 00:00 UTC
  • maybe you can verify - gwynj - February 10, 2001 - 00:10 UTC
    • Messiah Prophesies Fulfilled By Design - johnpowell - February 12, 2001 - 12:56 UTC
      • the choice is yours - gwynj - February 12, 2001 - 14:51 UTC
        • You have no choice. - alexander - February 12, 2001 - 19:51 UTC
        • IF God did A, He could have done B - johnpowell - February 13, 2001 - 16:33 UTC