Hi Dick,

Before I post nonsense, I need to know if you can agree with this:

Do you think reality is a set of numbers? I'm convinced you don't, so why do you choose to define reality that way? I can think of a good reason why, and if you are thinking of the same reason then I have no issue with your definition at all; I never did, in fact. However, something is still missing.

The problem is simple, and I'm convinced you can understand it. It's not essentially different from your argument, but it includes something you overlooked. First, we have to assume a few things:

1. Reality exists
2. Some aspects of reality can be cast in the form of a theory
3. It's possible, but not known until our theorizing process is complete, that some aspects of reality cannot be theorized

Do you have any issue with those? I'm not defining anything so far, just trying to make it clear where I'm coming from. Let me know what you think.

Cheers,

Aurino

• You want me to define it? - doctordick - August 14, 2002 - 17:19 UTC
  • You're going too fast! - aurino_s - August 14, 2002 - 18:59 UTC
    • Representation/proposition! - doctordick - August 15, 2002 - 01:28 UTC
      • If this doesn't work, nothing will - aurino_s - August 15, 2002 - 15:47 UTC
        • One of you is philosophically consistent. - luis_hamburgh - August 16, 2002 - 01:57 UTC
          • I don't think we disagree at all - aurino_s - August 16, 2002 - 12:40 UTC
            • Physics does not explain reality - yanniru - August 16, 2002 - 13:52 UTC
        • Misscomunications. - doctordick - August 16, 2002 - 12:46 UTC
          • a, b, or c? - aurino_s - August 16, 2002 - 13:23 UTC
            • That is not "a very simple question" at all! - doctordick - August 16, 2002 - 17:03 UTC
              • I was absolutely sure you were going to say just that - aurino_s - August 16, 2002 - 17:43 UTC
                • Here's one observation - harvey1 - August 16, 2002 - 18:00 UTC
                  • Harv! - aurino_s - August 16, 2002 - 18:17 UTC
                    • Forgot this: what Dick's paper is about - aurino_s - August 16, 2002 - 18:19 UTC
                      • What Aurino said he'll do if you are right.... - carefuluniverse - August 16, 2002 - 22:32 UTC
                        • It's sad anyway. - doctordick - August 17, 2002 - 13:19 UTC
                    • Hmm... - harvey1 - August 16, 2002 - 18:40 UTC
                      • Harv- How can we hook you into staying? - yanniru - August 16, 2002 - 19:18 UTC
                        • Hello Richard - harvey1 - August 16, 2002 - 19:34 UTC
                          • Hello Harv - dolphin - August 23, 2002 - 05:41 UTC
                        • This sums it up - luis_hamburgh - August 17, 2002 - 01:30 UTC
                          • But Luis - dolphin - August 23, 2002 - 05:45 UTC
                      • Good to hear from you Harv! - pmartin - August 16, 2002 - 22:19 UTC
                    • Ooh... don't go there - luis_hamburgh - August 17, 2002 - 01:27 UTC
                    • I am saddened. - doctordick - August 17, 2002 - 13:12 UTC
      • Boxing vs. Professional Wrestling - luis_hamburgh - August 16, 2002 - 02:11 UTC
        • "Character is action"? Also: Breakthrough? - dolphin - August 16, 2002 - 10:37 UTC
          • My breakthrough - yanniru - August 16, 2002 - 14:02 UTC
            • Old ideas - luis_hamburgh - August 17, 2002 - 00:59 UTC
            • Yanniru you are on the money - dolphin - August 23, 2002 - 06:02 UTC
              • The physics of language - yanniru - August 27, 2002 - 19:26 UTC
                • The patterns, not the objects! - dolphin - September 1, 2002 - 06:32 UTC
          • I'm about to drop the biggest bomb ever dropped on this forum - aurino_s - August 16, 2002 - 16:04 UTC
            • That's been said b4 on this forum - carefuluniverse - August 16, 2002 - 16:15 UTC
            • Only the vain and uninformed would bombard ancient ruins. - luis_hamburgh - August 17, 2002 - 00:50 UTC
              • Ancient or not, ruined or not - spazcon - August 17, 2002 - 01:20 UTC
                • JabberSpazzy - luis_hamburgh - August 17, 2002 - 02:03 UTC
                  • "Disparagement" is the same as replying to your posts - spazcon - August 17, 2002 - 21:10 UTC
              • How in the world did you arrive at that connection? - pmartin - August 17, 2002 - 04:23 UTC
                • Think about it! - luis_hamburgh - August 17, 2002 - 18:57 UTC
                  • 'A mind is a terrible thing not to have' - kantolfir2 - August 18, 2002 - 00:49 UTC
                    • At some point the line has been crossed one too many times. - luis_hamburgh - August 24, 2002 - 16:10 UTC
                      • innuendo, not math - carefuluniverse - August 24, 2002 - 18:18 UTC
                      • Rather than replying point by point to my posts - carefuluniverse - August 24, 2002 - 18:24 UTC
                  • Amazement - pmartin - August 18, 2002 - 02:48 UTC
                    • Fun to discuss, but hardly amazing. - luis_hamburgh - August 24, 2002 - 15:40 UTC
                      • "...then frankly I don't think...." - carefuluniverse - August 25, 2002 - 00:22 UTC
                      • Good work Luis - dolphin - August 25, 2002 - 06:03 UTC
                        • Key Words: Sir Arthur Eddington Jabberwocky - luis_hamburgh - August 25, 2002 - 22:32 UTC
                          • Key words: Luis Hamburgh is not his real name - spazcon - August 26, 2002 - 01:32 UTC
                            • Who are you to judge others - yanniru - August 26, 2002 - 13:40 UTC
                              • Who are you to be such a brief interrogator? - spazcon - August 26, 2002 - 21:49 UTC
                                • You claimed God was punishing the Muslims. - yanniru - August 26, 2002 - 23:09 UTC
                                  • You liar... - spazcon - August 27, 2002 - 06:18 UTC
                                  • I meant that in a good way, of course - spazcon - August 27, 2002 - 06:43 UTC
                                  • Of course, I MADE NO SUCH CLAIM - spazcon - August 27, 2002 - 17:20 UTC
                          • Thanks Luis - dolphin - September 1, 2002 - 06:35 UTC