Hi Alex,

I'm not arguing the power of math. What I want to know is exactly how your visualize all of this working as it does (and I mean exactly - perhaps more exact than you are normally used to thinking about this issue).

>>>It turns out that in physics an abstract mathematical category (say, force or mass) can be very "tangible". Force is defined as a derivative of momentum F=dp/dt (just a rate of change of momentum), and mass - as inertial property of energy.>So, again math "dictates" what tangible objects can (or can not) exist in universe.

• If anything exists, it obeys math by definition. - alexander - September 10, 2001 - 22:41 UTC
  • Let's break this down exactly... - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 00:23 UTC
    • Correction - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 00:35 UTC
    • Wrong again. - alexander - September 11, 2001 - 01:31 UTC
      • Let me explain more fully - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 03:29 UTC
      • Hi, guys - stormcrow - September 11, 2001 - 03:38 UTC
        • re: antirealism - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 03:58 UTC
          • Harvey, why so many words just to say "nature obeys math"? - alexander - September 14, 2001 - 23:47 UTC
            • Your system relies on distinction - dolphin - September 15, 2001 - 21:59 UTC
              • Not true. - alexander - September 17, 2001 - 18:28 UTC
                • The scope of math - harvey1 - September 17, 2001 - 21:34 UTC
                  • Well, one could make the argument... - stormcrow - September 17, 2001 - 21:59 UTC
                    • Everything else follows from math. - alexander - September 17, 2001 - 22:57 UTC
                      • Alex and I never seem to agree on anything.... - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 00:42 UTC
                      • Beyond Math - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 15:28 UTC
                        • But this is incomplete..... - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 18:20 UTC
                          • Sure, we need to study the whole system - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 23:15 UTC
                      • Everything Else follows from Math - petersand - September 18, 2001 - 18:44 UTC
                    • We could make that argument, but... - harvey1 - September 18, 2001 - 05:04 UTC
                      • Whaaaaa? - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 19:16 UTC
                        • Not what I'm talking about - harvey1 - September 18, 2001 - 20:41 UTC
                  • Math is the same in all universes - yanniru - September 18, 2001 - 14:13 UTC
                    • Math isn't fully reduced - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 21:54 UTC
                      • Math Isn't Fully reduced - petersand - September 21, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
                        • Eyes wide open - dolphin - September 25, 2001 - 10:20 UTC
                          • Eyes Wide Open - petersand - September 27, 2001 - 18:17 UTC
                • misunderstanding - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 14:08 UTC
  • If anything exists,it obeys math - petersand - September 12, 2001 - 19:06 UTC
    • We need to make an amendment to the constitution... - smartguy - September 13, 2001 - 17:39 UTC
      • We need to make an Amendment - petersand - September 13, 2001 - 18:45 UTC
    • Copper cables (for Peterson). - alexander - September 15, 2001 - 00:54 UTC
      • Copper cables - petersand - September 15, 2001 - 18:49 UTC
        • This is no surprise..... - smartguy - September 15, 2001 - 19:46 UTC
          • This is no Surprise - petersand - September 16, 2001 - 18:55 UTC
            • Skin efect (correction of Peter's claim about cables). - alexander - September 17, 2001 - 18:45 UTC
              • Skin effect - petersand - September 19, 2001 - 19:35 UTC
                • Emotions are math of survival (evolution). - alexander - September 24, 2001 - 22:59 UTC
                  • Survival of the best MATCH - dolphin - September 25, 2001 - 23:40 UTC
            • But.... - smartguy - September 17, 2001 - 19:03 UTC
              • Correction... - smartguy - September 17, 2001 - 19:15 UTC