Because math is nothing more than labeling existense=1, non existense =0. By doing so, we SET binary logical rules (either 1 or 0, but not both).

So, math and logic starts when anything (whether it is an object, or concept, or rule, or universe) exists.

If nothing exists, there is nothing to assign 0/1 to (nothing to count yet).

So, math does not apply to NONEXISTING objects or worlds (well, actually you still can call them "0" and thus make math valid for them too).

• Let's break this down exactly... - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 00:23 UTC
  • Correction - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 00:35 UTC
  • Wrong again. - alexander - September 11, 2001 - 01:31 UTC
    • Let me explain more fully - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 03:29 UTC
    • Hi, guys - stormcrow - September 11, 2001 - 03:38 UTC
      • re: antirealism - harvey1 - September 11, 2001 - 03:58 UTC
        • Harvey, why so many words just to say "nature obeys math"? - alexander - September 14, 2001 - 23:47 UTC
          • Your system relies on distinction - dolphin - September 15, 2001 - 21:59 UTC
            • Not true. - alexander - September 17, 2001 - 18:28 UTC
              • The scope of math - harvey1 - September 17, 2001 - 21:34 UTC
                • Well, one could make the argument... - stormcrow - September 17, 2001 - 21:59 UTC
                  • Everything else follows from math. - alexander - September 17, 2001 - 22:57 UTC
                    • Alex and I never seem to agree on anything.... - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 00:42 UTC
                    • Beyond Math - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 15:28 UTC
                      • But this is incomplete..... - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 18:20 UTC
                        • Sure, we need to study the whole system - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 23:15 UTC
                    • Everything Else follows from Math - petersand - September 18, 2001 - 18:44 UTC
                  • We could make that argument, but... - harvey1 - September 18, 2001 - 05:04 UTC
                    • Whaaaaa? - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 19:16 UTC
                      • Not what I'm talking about - harvey1 - September 18, 2001 - 20:41 UTC
                • Math is the same in all universes - yanniru - September 18, 2001 - 14:13 UTC
                  • Math isn't fully reduced - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 21:54 UTC
                    • Math Isn't Fully reduced - petersand - September 21, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
                      • Eyes wide open - dolphin - September 25, 2001 - 10:20 UTC
                        • Eyes Wide Open - petersand - September 27, 2001 - 18:17 UTC
              • misunderstanding - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 14:08 UTC
• If anything exists,it obeys math - petersand - September 12, 2001 - 19:06 UTC
  • We need to make an amendment to the constitution... - smartguy - September 13, 2001 - 17:39 UTC
    • We need to make an Amendment - petersand - September 13, 2001 - 18:45 UTC
  • Copper cables (for Peterson). - alexander - September 15, 2001 - 00:54 UTC
    • Copper cables - petersand - September 15, 2001 - 18:49 UTC
      • This is no surprise..... - smartguy - September 15, 2001 - 19:46 UTC
        • This is no Surprise - petersand - September 16, 2001 - 18:55 UTC
          • Skin efect (correction of Peter's claim about cables). - alexander - September 17, 2001 - 18:45 UTC
            • Skin effect - petersand - September 19, 2001 - 19:35 UTC
              • Emotions are math of survival (evolution). - alexander - September 24, 2001 - 22:59 UTC
                • Survival of the best MATCH - dolphin - September 25, 2001 - 23:40 UTC
          • But.... - smartguy - September 17, 2001 - 19:03 UTC
            • Correction... - smartguy - September 17, 2001 - 19:15 UTC