OK. I think the opposite is true. In science, extraordinary claims have always been made on very limited evidence. The latest claim of supersymmetry, or rather evidence for supersymmetry, is based on very limited evidence of the Muon. In fact, most of the time, that is most of the data, shows no evidence.

So perhaps you could say in this sense that the limited muon data showing supersymmetry- well actually it in itself does not show supersymmetry, it's just a possible explanation- is extraordinary in the sense that it is not ordinarily seen. It happens infrequently.

So in this definition of extraordinary, that something is happening infrequently under the same conditions, then extraordinary claims come from extraordinary data. Science has always worked that way. Take entanglement. Certainly an extraordinary claim of entanglement, that came from one experiment- Aspect's- that now has been repeated over and over.

So the extraordinary data or experiment becomes ordinary if allowed to be repeated. But if extraordinary research is not allowed to be repeated, which is the case, then the data remains extraordinary and the normal process in science of making things ordinary is frustrated.

Would you like to talk about that. Or do you think that extraordinary experiments must be flawed and need not be repeated, as you have stated in previous posts. If so, then in my mind you are not a true scientist. Perhaps we could say that you are an ordinary scientist, not an extraordinary one.

• If strong ESP yes then most Science no. - johnpowell - March 9, 2001 - 17:36 UTC
  • Re: If strong ESP yes then most Science no. - yanniru - March 9, 2001 - 19:24 UTC
    • Is "Remote Sensing" a kind of ESP? - johnpowell - March 13, 2001 - 20:02 UTC
      • IT has been detected - yanniru - March 13, 2001 - 23:35 UTC
        • I'm waiting for reliable supporting experiments. - johnpowell - March 19, 2001 - 20:18 UTC
          • Randi - yanniru - March 19, 2001 - 22:09 UTC
            • Randi is well-qualified to catch deception - johnpowell - April 5, 2001 - 02:30 UTC
• Repeated extraordinary evidence becomes ordinary? - johnpowell - March 9, 2001 - 17:47 UTC
  • Re: Repeated extraordinary evidence becomes ordinary? - yanniru - March 9, 2001 - 19:29 UTC
    • Millions of Nobel Prize losers. - alexander - March 12, 2001 - 15:42 UTC
      • Show me the evidence - yanniru - March 13, 2001 - 13:25 UTC
        • Actually not millions but billions. Sorry. - alexander - March 13, 2001 - 18:22 UTC
          • Know nothing? - yanniru - March 13, 2001 - 23:25 UTC
            • Did anything supernatural thing happen to you? - johnpowell - March 19, 2001 - 20:25 UTC
              • Yes - yanniru - March 19, 2001 - 22:05 UTC
                • Meaning of science? - alexander - March 20, 2001 - 00:27 UTC
                  • No meaning at all. - yanniru - March 20, 2001 - 13:43 UTC
                    • Religion knows much less than science does - johnpowell - April 6, 2001 - 20:00 UTC
                • Science is superior to religion, organized or othewise - johnpowell - April 6, 2001 - 19:57 UTC
            • Get data, print paper and get Nobel Prize. - alexander - March 20, 2001 - 00:29 UTC
              • No Nobel Prize for Metaphysics - yanniru - March 20, 2001 - 13:46 UTC
                • Not necessarily. - alexander - March 21, 2001 - 20:51 UTC
                  • But no one will fund them - yanniru - March 22, 2001 - 13:43 UTC
                    • Nonreproducible results? - alexander - March 22, 2001 - 16:39 UTC
                      • Not my results - yanniru - March 22, 2001 - 23:27 UTC
                        • No one can stop science. - alexander - March 23, 2001 - 00:24 UTC
                          • SRI was stopped - yanniru - March 23, 2001 - 13:25 UTC
                            • But they can not stop human ego. - alexander - March 23, 2001 - 20:09 UTC
                        • Scientists must protect science from the superstitious - johnpowell - March 30, 2001 - 23:30 UTC
                          • What about entanglement - yanniru - March 31, 2001 - 01:57 UTC
      • A few above average psychic experiments are expected by chance - johnpowell - March 13, 2001 - 19:04 UTC