Very impressive. Both of you. I think this forum has just risen to new heights of sophistication and seriousness.

Especially the salutations indicating who you are , where you are from and what you do. If you will allow me some latitude, I find it ironic - well not really, it's understandable- that the poster from that most atheistic of states, Massachusetts, and places, Harvard, is more open about the truth that lies beyond the reach of science, than the poster from that most religious of all states, Utah.

I guess what I am hearing is that we should be fearful of any one religion, and I think I include atheism in that group, from getting control of our political process and our lives.

I think the goal should always be to maximize the freedom of thought. And so a balance has to be achieved between science and religion to obtian the maximum. I can see that too much religion or too much science will diminish freedom of thought.

So like in Utah and Kansas we have to fight for science to get back into balance. At MIT where I used to work, I think maybe a little more religion would be good. Harvard where I also worked seems to maintain a pretty good balance between religion and science. Those alligned with either side seem to understand the limits of their persuasion and have respect for the endeavours of the other.

• Re: Re: What truths has religion discovered? - blnelsonusa - February 15, 2001 - 15:02 UTC
  • ANY truths discovered by religion? - alexander - February 16, 2001 - 10:18 UTC
    • Re: ANY truths discovered by religion? - yanniru - February 16, 2001 - 13:20 UTC
      • Re: Re: ANY truths discovered by religion? - alexander - February 16, 2001 - 21:34 UTC
        • Re: Re: Re: ANY truths discovered by religion? - eowilson - February 17, 2001 - 01:32 UTC
          • Re: Re: Re: Re: ANY truths discovered by religion? - alexander - February 17, 2001 - 03:18 UTC
          • Popular Ideologies - blnelsonusa - February 17, 2001 - 04:13 UTC
• Indee, is there any truths any religion ever discovered?? - alexander - February 16, 2001 - 10:06 UTC
  • Re: Indee, is there any truths any religion ever discovered?? - yanniru - February 16, 2001 - 13:16 UTC
    • Re: Re: Indee, is there any truths any religion ever discovered?? - alexander - February 16, 2001 - 19:50 UTC
      • Re: Re: Re: Indee, is there any truths any religion ever discovered?? - yanniru - February 16, 2001 - 22:04 UTC
        • Physics research in Utah is at expected levels. - johnpowell - February 17, 2001 - 01:46 UTC
          • Re: Physics research in Utah is at expected levels. - alexander - February 17, 2001 - 09:42 UTC
            • Re: Re: Physics research in Utah is at expected levels. - yanniru - February 17, 2001 - 20:06 UTC
              • Utah beats Harward in teaching science. - alexander - February 18, 2001 - 19:52 UTC
                • Re: Utah beats Harward in teaching science. - yanniru - February 18, 2001 - 23:13 UTC
    • Is this a fact learned from religion? - johnpowell - February 17, 2001 - 02:42 UTC
      • Re: Is this a fact learned from religion? - yanniru - February 17, 2001 - 19:54 UTC
        • What facts about human nature has God revealed? - johnpowell - February 20, 2001 - 22:56 UTC
          • Re: What facts about human nature has God revealed? - yanniru - February 21, 2001 - 01:33 UTC
• Don't fear atheism. - johnpowell - February 17, 2001 - 02:19 UTC
  • Re: Don't fear atheism. - yanniru - February 17, 2001 - 19:37 UTC
    • Suppression of science? - alexander - February 18, 2001 - 05:40 UTC
      • Re: Suppression of science? - yanniru - February 18, 2001 - 22:38 UTC
        • Suppression of science? - alexander - February 20, 2001 - 01:49 UTC
          • Re: Suppression of science? - yanniru - February 21, 2001 - 00:47 UTC
    • Bad Grant Policies in the US - johnpowell - February 23, 2001 - 05:59 UTC
      • Re: Bad Grant Policies in the US - yanniru - February 23, 2001 - 20:48 UTC
  • so what is the opinion - gwynj - February 18, 2001 - 01:06 UTC
    • Passion level not good indicator of truth - johnpowell - February 20, 2001 - 22:11 UTC