Back to Home

God & Science Forum Message

Forums: Atm · Astrophotography · Blackholes · Blackholes2 · CCD · Celestron · Domes · Education
Eyepieces · Meade · Misc. · God and Science · SETI · Software · UFO · XEphem
RSS Button

Home | Discussion Forums | God and Science | Post
Login

Be the first pioneers to continue the Astronomy Discussions at our new Astronomy meeting place...
The Space and Astronomy Agora
Re: Does Anyone Need Science And Good Education?

Forum List | Follow Ups | Post Message | Back to Thread Topics | In Response To
Posted by Benjamin Nelson on February 15, 2001 14:15:57 UTC

Alexander:

There are other arguably more effective strafes to add to you campaign against institutional American education. Your argument that Kansas public schools provide a place to refine creationist ideology, to which such an ideology is relevant and only relevant to such a place, is much to overdone. Rather, you might note that the growth of such a course creates a guaranteed market for textbooks, which bring a resounding lucrative royalty income to career "pseudoscientists." Or, you can on reasonably defensible grounds, argue that an emphasis on creationism while toeing the "academic line" is, if anything, more suitable in the realm of the individual, than it is in the realm of the mind.

These, among others, are arguments you can legitimately make. Nevertheless, you cannot, on any defensible ground, argue that creationism is an illegitimate means through which one can achieve personal fulfillment, or that having faith is somehow less legitimate than having all the answers. And yet, your defense of natural law continues to maintain that one reality negates another, and so forth and so on. Eventually, every reality is run afoul of this compulsory moralizing, including you own, until all belief systems are seen no longer as subjective, but as one "wrong" system that precedes another.

This philosophical rhetoric may seem overkill, but it is meant, above all, to win arguments -- or rather, head them off at the pass; hence, my aim is to debunk what seems to be a very persistent bee in your bonnet. Yes, mathematics may be the underpinning of the universe; yes, perhaps the hard-edged world we experience does indeed arise from the indeterminacy of the quantum haze. And this my be a convenient argument for cold, impersonal scientists like yourself, but is does not represent a complete understanding of how the human mind works. And at the very least, it doesn’t provide the needed common ground that bridges barriers.

B. L. Nelson

Follow Ups:

Login to Post
Additional Information
Google
 
Web www.astronomy.net
DayNightLine
About Astronomy Net | Advertise on Astronomy Net | Contact & Comments | Privacy Policy
Unless otherwise specified, web site content Copyright 1994-2018 John Huggins All Rights Reserved
Forum posts are Copyright their authors as specified in the heading above the post.
"dbHTML," "AstroGuide," "ASTRONOMY.NET" & "VA.NET"
are trademarks of John Huggins