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A Questionaire For Harv

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Posted by Alan on December 20, 2003 09:00:06 UTC

Hi Harv!

1. Do you agree that some people do not agree with the conduct of other people?

2. Do you agree that "physical illnesses" require demonstrable cellular pathology, or they are speculative?

3. Do you agree that some people are regarded by others as being a nuisance?

4. Do you agree that people seem to get involved in disagreements sometimes?

5. Do you agree that calling dissaproved behaviour by a label (e.g. "anorexia") does not amount to proof that the behaviour-so-labelled is anything other than a dissaproved-of-behaviour?

6. Do you agree that taking alcohol, which is a drug, may influence behaviour?

7. Do you agree that getting drunk is not a cure for an illness called "being sober"?

8. Do you agree that a group of people (e.g. The American Psychiatric Association) getting together in a conference every now and then and inventing or dis-inventing alleged "illnesses" (often labelled with impressive-sounding Greek or Latin names) for behaviours they do not approve of is not genuine medicine?

9.Do you agree that you have so far not discussed with me much of the content of my physics mapping posts?

10.Do you agree that a proper rational discussion on a subject involves dealing with the content not say diverting into say labelling the poster?

11. Do you agree that if so-called "mental" illnesses are not accepted as medical physical illnesses; then they must be metaphorical (like "sick economy"?

12. Do you agree that dissagreements are not defects?

13. Do you agree that torture can be dressed up as medicine?

14. Do you agree that human beings have a right to ownership of their own behaviour, to recognition of their self-agency, their personal freedom and responsibility?

15. Do you agree that difficulty in understanding another person does not mean the mis-understood person is sick or defective?

16. Do you agree that people might like being respected as self-responsible moral agents; but might not like being painted as say allegedly defective objects to be coerced by others?

I hope you are not accusing me of being a defective object to be coerced by others.

Quoting the website:

"Asperger's Disorder is a milder variant of Autistic Disorder. Both Asperger's Disorder and Autistic Disorder are in fact subgroups of a larger diagnostic category. This larger category is called either Autistic Spectrum Disorders, mostly in European countries, or Pervasive Developmental Disorders ("PDD"), in the United States. In Asperger's Disorder, affected individuals are characterized by social isolation and eccentric behavior in childhood."

Here they make a rule:

thou shalt not be socially isolated; thou shalt not behave in ways we judge as "eccentric" in childhood.

They are defining a "sin", not a sickness.

"There are impairments in two-sided social interaction and non-verbal communication."

More rules:

they are dictating THEIR VIEW of how THEY THINK people SHOULD interact with each other or communicate with each other.

Not a word about cellular pathology or microbes.

They are apparently making up sins against their world-view, and defining a form of heresy. They are imposing THEIR VIEW on what humans SHOULD BE and DICTATING deviance from this as defect.
They are apparently making rules of behaviour that they think are necessary to fulfill their objectives and values.

"Though grammatical, their speech is peculiar due to abnormalities of inflection and a repetitive pattern."

Dissaproved-of-behaviour; more rules on how humans must behave are being dictated.

Quote from George Orwell's "1984" may be foof for thought here?

The torture of Winston by O'Brien leads to O'Brien explaining:

"The command of the old despotisms was "thou shalt not". The command of the totalatarians was "thou shalt". Our command is "Thou art".

"Clumsiness is prominent both in their articulation and gross motor behavior".

This reminds of "drapetomania" the "disease" that supposedly makes slaves want to run away. The cure is supposed to be working for white man and filling the lungs. (See "Insanity" by Thomas Szasz pages 306 - 307)

"They usually have a circumscribed area of interest which usually leaves no space for more age appropriate, common interests. Some examples are cars, trains, French Literature, door knobs, hinges, cappucino, meteorology, astronomy or history."

More rules of behaviour being dictated.

Thought police?



"The name "Asperger" comes from Hans Asperger, an Austrian physician who first described the syndrome in 1944. An excellent translation of Dr. Asperger's original paper is provided by Dr. Uta Frith in her Autism and Asperger Syndrome."

Think about it!

Merry Christmas,



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