Hi Glenn,

I think everyone should read your post carefully and think about each and every point you make. Then we should take your advice and "attempt to restore wholeness to human society, which has been rent asunder by extremes of reason artificially divorced from belief and irrational religious fanaticism."

This forum provides us participants with a wonderful opportunity to participate in a "dialogue based on mutual respect. Both sides must approach this dialogue, not with the desire to establish dominion over the other, but with a spirit of learning, of mining deeper and richer veins of truth." We should take advantage of it in exactly the spirit you outline in your post.

!!!!"This will only be possible if all participants keep firmly in view the goal of human happiness. Does a particular position, approach or belief advance the human condition, or does it drive it back? Only on this basis can a dialogue between faith and reason produce true and lasting value for humankind."!!!!

I sincerely hope you have started something, Glenn.

Warm regards,

Paul

• Where is it, Paul? "Exactly that spirit?" May we differ? - kantolfir2 - July 28, 2002 - 00:31 UTC
  • Immediately following. Yes, of course we may differ. - pmartin - July 28, 2002 - 03:18 UTC
    • Hand the reins of power to the best formula rhetoric? - kantolfir2 - July 28, 2002 - 04:03 UTC
      • No, it's too early to tell - pmartin - July 28, 2002 - 04:30 UTC
        • There is no shared brain, only individual reverie + dialogue - kantolfir2 - July 28, 2002 - 16:39 UTC
          • Start over - pmartin - July 29, 2002 - 04:04 UTC
            • Problem solving depends on "imagining agreeable" outcomes - kantolfir2 - July 29, 2002 - 05:00 UTC
              • Now I get it - pmartin - July 29, 2002 - 16:10 UTC
                • Well, things aren't going so well - kantolfir2 - July 29, 2002 - 16:34 UTC
                • Now we have a disagreement - pmartin - July 29, 2002 - 17:20 UTC
                  • thanks, but I meant my oilpan drain plug wouldn't come off - kantolfir2 - July 29, 2002 - 21:22 UTC
        • I have - spartacus - July 29, 2002 - 01:33 UTC
    • I agree, but we could be doing just that. - spartacus - July 28, 2002 - 19:15 UTC
      • in fact, if you had been here, you'd see we have been - kantolfir2 - July 28, 2002 - 23:58 UTC
        • What makes you think that I've been appealing... - spartacus - July 29, 2002 - 01:03 UTC
        • In addition, - spartacus - July 29, 2002 - 01:19 UTC
          • I'm not confusing those....biological evolution did the same. - kantolfir2 - July 29, 2002 - 05:09 UTC
            • You're still wrong about my opinion - spartacus - July 30, 2002 - 00:28 UTC
              • Daily, I find new things I make mistakes about! - kantolfir2 - July 30, 2002 - 04:51 UTC
                • Mike man... Ted listen! - emperor__alikar - August 1, 2002 - 02:39 UTC
                  • I don't think anyone will drown here...thanks for the note - carefuluniverse - August 1, 2002 - 05:59 UTC
                    • Actually I know ted personaly - emperor__alikar - August 3, 2002 - 03:21 UTC
            • Sorry - spartacus - July 30, 2002 - 00:56 UTC
      • Yes, we could. Scary isn't it? - pmartin - July 29, 2002 - 04:38 UTC
        • Maybe you're right... - spartacus - July 30, 2002 - 00:39 UTC
          • Yes, but only maybe - pmartin - July 30, 2002 - 04:57 UTC