It's been reported that some people who lose the ability to move some of their limbs do not agree that they have a problem. When asked by a doctor to move the limb, they don't report being unable to do it, they simply say they don't want to. Could it be that what we experience as "the will to move a limb" is exactly the same thing doctors experience as "neurons, nerves, muscles"? That makes sense to me, and it implies that thought and matter are simply two aspects of the same thing. Which also implies that if matter changes thought, then thought must necessarily be able to change matter.

By the way, that's exactly what happens when you wish to move your arm and your arm moves. People who believe thought cannot change matter must either be dead or soft in the head.

• no matter is able to change thought. - jisbond - July 5, 2002 - 18:04 UTC
• There is subtlety which you comprehend at deepest levels - carefuluniverse - July 5, 2002 - 20:06 UTC
  • I can not deceive myself well. - jisbond - July 5, 2002 - 22:05 UTC
    • "Will" -- we are saying-- is like "followthrough"...not thought - carefuluniverse - July 5, 2002 - 23:27 UTC
      • and now: A Prayer From The USA: - jisbond - July 6, 2002 - 02:27 UTC
        • Do you think - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2002 - 02:45 UTC
          • please provide more information on this. - jisbond - July 6, 2002 - 07:07 UTC
            • please have your information before dictating religion - carefuluniverse - July 6, 2002 - 11:30 UTC
              • flowery conclusions by: "Sir Carefuluniverse" - jisbond - July 6, 2002 - 18:21 UTC
                • I believe G_D but I am skeptical of Your version of G_D's books - kantolfir2 - July 6, 2002 - 19:22 UTC
                  • clarification: - jisbond - July 7, 2002 - 00:48 UTC
                  • "Not presumptuously, I hope you realize..." - jisbond - July 7, 2002 - 00:50 UTC
                  • I am glad of your skepticism too Sir Whittier - jisbond - July 7, 2002 - 01:02 UTC
              • I have posted my position on accepting all religions - jisbond - July 6, 2002 - 18:36 UTC
                • The search system for the messages archived seems to be down! - jisbond - July 6, 2002 - 18:57 UTC
                  • The Title you gave me does not seem right - kantolfir2 - July 6, 2002 - 19:23 UTC
                    • I Gave you the title because you are desrving of it Sir. - jisbond - July 7, 2002 - 00:34 UTC
                      • Well, do I have to wear any special things or come to lunch? - kantolfir2 - July 7, 2002 - 00:49 UTC
                        • If.... - jisbond - July 7, 2002 - 00:58 UTC
                          • You do not have the authority to confer Knighthood - kantolfir2 - July 8, 2002 - 21:45 UTC
                            • Ok.You. too. Can I still call you Sir Whittier? I liked it..No? - jisbond - July 11, 2002 - 23:31 UTC
                              • Being a Knight, I thought lunch would be involved - kantolfir2 - July 12, 2002 - 05:37 UTC
                                • some (communists) believe competition is good - jisbond - July 16, 2002 - 04:44 UTC
                                  • "Some!" (communists)......... - jisbond - July 16, 2002 - 04:46 UTC
                                  • "Some!" (communists)......... - jisbond - July 16, 2002 - 04:47 UTC
  • I'm just an explorer of ideas - aurino - July 8, 2002 - 13:50 UTC
• Should we not ask why: Mind over Matter over Mind? - jisbond - July 5, 2002 - 22:34 UTC
• REVISED:Should we not ask why: Mind over Matter over Mind? - jisbond - July 5, 2002 - 22:39 UTC
• Well... - stormcrow - July 6, 2002 - 02:10 UTC
  • Not well - aurino - July 8, 2002 - 13:40 UTC
    • Seems silly to me - stormcrow - July 8, 2002 - 14:46 UTC
      • not silly - aurino - July 8, 2002 - 15:22 UTC
        • Yep - stormcrow - July 8, 2002 - 18:25 UTC
          • Yep, you need to start at a lower level - pmartin - July 10, 2002 - 18:59 UTC