***The real issue is that the patients didn't have the ability to move the muscle but behaved as if it were a matter of will rather than power....The issue with those patients is that they reported not wanting to move the limb rather than not being able to.***

Aurino, you can 'will' anything to happen as much as you want, but unless you can send a signal down to your leg to move it, that will doesn't count for anything. As I said, when I have experienced temporary paralysis, my will counts for absolutely nothing. Without a physical means to transmit my will to the outside world, it doesn't count for anything.

***You insist on the idea that mind is separate from body while at the same time rejecting dualism.***

Dualism, if I recall correctly, is more the idea that mind and consciousness is a platonic ideal, equal to matter 'somewhere out there.' I agree that the mind is seperate from body RELATIVE TO OUR SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCES but that means nothing relative to the universe as a whole. That is, mind and body are seperate inside our own consciousnesses, but from the universe's perspective they're one and the same. It all depends on what question you're asking.

*** It's an illogical position but you can't see why yet.***

You always make at least one statement like this per post. :) It's hard for me to not view it as a bit condescending. What sentences like this give the impression of is veiled confusion. You HAVE to give me more to work on then stuff like 'you're wrong, you don't know why, I can't explain' and think I'll buy it. :)

• not silly - aurino - July 8, 2002 - 15:22 UTC
  • Yep - stormcrow - July 8, 2002 - 18:25 UTC
    • Yep, you need to start at a lower level - pmartin - July 10, 2002 - 18:59 UTC