"Unless you wish to assert that "one" equals "none," or that lightning, hydrogen, water, methane and ammonia are not naturally occuring phenomena, then you have to concede I was correct."

Ok, I have a question for you. How often do amino acids create themselves in the wild? After all, all the scientist did was recreate naturally occuring compounds and add lighting. So it must happen all the time in the wild, right?

"I'm sure this 1953 experiment is not discussed at ICR; after all, ignorance is bliss."

And you are sure wrong, and quite blissful. Here are a several ICR links about his experiments, and life arising for non-living material:

http://www.icr.org/pubs/btg-b/btg-152b.htm

http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-031.htm

The following quote is from this link:

http://www.icr.org/newsletters/impact/impactdec00.html

"...he speculates that RNA may have come first, but then he still has to admit that:

The precise events giving rise to the RNA world remain unclear. . . . investigators have proposed many hypotheses, but evidence in favor of each of them is fragmentary at best.6

Translation: "There is no known way by which life could have arisen naturalistically." Unfortunately, two generations of students have been taught that Stanley Miller's famous experiment on a gaseous mixture, practically proved the naturalistic origin of life. But not so!

Miller put the whole thing in a ball, gave it an electric charge, and waited. He found that amino acids and other fundamental complex molecules were accumulating at the bottom of the apparatus. His discovery gave a huge boost to the scientific investigation of the origin of life. Indeed, for some time it seemed like creation of life in a test tube was within reach of experimental science. Unfortunately, such experiments have not progressed much further than the original prototype, leaving us with a sour aftertaste from the primordial soup.7"

Those quotes are from evolutionists.

"You said evolutionists "have no idea" how evolution began. The link I provided clearly disputes that, as it suggests one way evolution may have begun."

Read my links. Stanley's experiment proved nothing. KC2GWX 73's

• Sam be extremely weiry of taking quotes... - richard - June 5, 2002 - 17:07 UTC
  • also true that evolutionists misinterpret ram's of evolution - carefuluniverse - June 5, 2002 - 17:37 UTC
    • Michael, I don't think many scientists... - richard - June 5, 2002 - 22:44 UTC
      • My Name is Mr. Pearson and if you're a scientist... - carefuluniverse - June 6, 2002 - 16:08 UTC
        • Mr. Pearson - richard - June 6, 2002 - 16:26 UTC
          • Mr. Anonymous - carefuluniverse - June 6, 2002 - 16:56 UTC
            • Do Not Feed The Troll (nt) - harvey1 - June 6, 2002 - 17:03 UTC
              • who's a troll? - carefuluniverse - June 6, 2002 - 17:32 UTC
              • Oh, thanks, Harv, for that - carefuluniverse - June 6, 2002 - 17:34 UTC
• Science and religion - luis_hamburgh - June 7, 2002 - 13:54 UTC
  • ...go together well. - kc2gwx - June 7, 2002 - 15:15 UTC
    • Sam - harvey1 - June 7, 2002 - 18:43 UTC
      • Harv - kc2gwx - June 7, 2002 - 19:32 UTC
        • Science supports my religion - yanniru - June 7, 2002 - 20:16 UTC
        • Didn't say anything about academics - harvey1 - June 7, 2002 - 22:05 UTC
          • Almost humorous. - kc2gwx - June 8, 2002 - 01:11 UTC
            • Perhaps you just can't see - harvey1 - June 8, 2002 - 04:06 UTC
              • I guess not. - kc2gwx - June 8, 2002 - 04:21 UTC
                • I wasn't insulting - harvey1 - June 8, 2002 - 14:00 UTC
        • Error in relative grades of homeschoolers - richard - June 8, 2002 - 00:07 UTC
          • No error - kc2gwx - June 8, 2002 - 01:22 UTC
            • NO!!! I want homeschoolers vs their local public schoolers - richard - June 8, 2002 - 02:38 UTC
              • Come on. - kc2gwx - June 8, 2002 - 04:11 UTC
                • You've got to learn to accept more - richard - June 8, 2002 - 10:14 UTC
                  • I don't know everything. - kc2gwx - June 8, 2002 - 17:05 UTC
                    • I know everything and Rich just won't admit it - carefuluniverse - June 8, 2002 - 23:32 UTC
    • Don't worry, Sam - carefuluniverse - June 7, 2002 - 20:13 UTC
      • DNFTT - harvey1 - June 7, 2002 - 21:23 UTC
        • DNFTT back atcha - carefuluniverse - June 7, 2002 - 21:51 UTC
          • You're right - harvey1 - June 7, 2002 - 22:08 UTC
            • You only admit the simple things that can't be denied - carefuluniverse - June 7, 2002 - 23:14 UTC
    • Theory vs. "theory" - luis_hamburgh - June 10, 2002 - 14:18 UTC