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Posted by Paul R. Martin on December 26, 2001 19:45:17 UTC

Hi Harv,

>>>Can you acknowledge that whether we take the axiomatic approach to math, or an intuitive and more informal approach that either way we start with some kind of belief about what lines are and work with those notions? >I have no problem leaving lines (or whatever other primitive) as undefined>just as we acknowledge that whatever we hold as an undefined primitive is a belief and not yet logical fact.>>To be quite frank I think the internal process of perception is much more complicated and something that I do not understand.they are simply perceptual facts if enough of us in our communication with each other agree that we are indeed all experiencing the same perception.>>I really want to know where Dick stands on the issue of how scientific observables are reducible to everyday observables.

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