Looks to me like rhetoric is the true domain
of some who claim to be most rigorous and scientific. Maybe you think it of me.

I re-ask this question, even though primitively worded as an hypothesis-construct:

http://www.astronomy.net/forums/god/messages/12942.shtml

and believe its consequences are decisive for
strictly mechanical theories of universe.

If you fail to logically tear it down,
it is reasonable to conclude that it is because you cannot.

• I'm so responsive I'll answer questions put to others. - luis_hamburgh - November 30, 2001 - 21:07 UTC
  • Luis, your problem is that you mix "math" with determinism. - alexander - December 1, 2001 - 00:46 UTC
    • If you think so, then I am not wrong and could be vice versa - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 03:56 UTC
    • Please, tell us how math and determinism are separated - luis_hamburgh - December 1, 2001 - 16:25 UTC
      • Luis,fortunately I DO teach theoretical physics(how did you know - alexander - December 3, 2001 - 18:51 UTC
        • Logic is cross-disciplinary - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 01:53 UTC
          • Einstein not a theist - yanniru - December 4, 2001 - 14:22 UTC
            • Einstein was a theist - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 15:45 UTC
            • Both views are supportable - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 19:21 UTC
              • No, Einstein was very bothered by being called an atheist (nt) - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 19:37 UTC
                • I think, Einstein was weak believer. - alexander - December 4, 2001 - 20:11 UTC
                  • Actually - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 20:29 UTC
                    • But we must be careful... - bladesinger - December 4, 2001 - 23:40 UTC
                      • Of course - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 00:38 UTC
                        • Please define the god that Einstein believed in - yanniru - December 5, 2001 - 14:36 UTC
                          • Let me try - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 15:49 UTC
                            • Fortunately, there were never any evidences of God. - alexander - December 5, 2001 - 17:51 UTC
                              • You ignore the evidence - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 19:24 UTC
                                • Really? Evidence? What evidence (of god) do you have? - alexander - December 6, 2001 - 00:49 UTC
                                  • My evidence for god - yanniru - December 6, 2001 - 16:06 UTC
                                • Al, you never responded further to this discussion - harvey1 - December 6, 2001 - 02:41 UTC
                              • Have you _defined_ precisely which God(s) you say do not exist - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 23:05 UTC
                          • which isn't saying much? - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 23:01 UTC
                • attribution needed in science, news, law - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 20:30 UTC
                  • Wait, wait, okay, I've conjured up my first quote - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 20:40 UTC
                    • * * * * * *|| * * * * *|| * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ! ! ! - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 02:22 UTC
                    • Seems that Einstein believed in a mysterious force - yanniru - December 5, 2001 - 14:37 UTC
                      • This mysterious force is called math (logic). - alexander - December 5, 2001 - 19:16 UTC
                        • You apparently don't understand Einstein - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 19:36 UTC
                          • learned everything they know about biography by studying math - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 22:06 UTC
  • are you really going deep or just goofing around? - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 03:48 UTC
    • Call me Pluto - luis_hamburgh - December 1, 2001 - 17:07 UTC
      • Hi, Pluto ! - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 22:44 UTC
        • Evasive, shmevasive! - luis_hamburgh - December 2, 2001 - 20:59 UTC
          • I do not believe in your sincerity - carefuluniverse - December 3, 2001 - 03:02 UTC
            • The trouble with me - luis_hamburgh - December 3, 2001 - 18:36 UTC
              • how do you know that no-one knows? - carefuluniverse - December 3, 2001 - 20:01 UTC
                • Actually (my favorite word)... - luis_hamburgh - December 3, 2001 - 22:46 UTC
                  • I do love self=referential confusion syntax - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 01:56 UTC
          • Besides, I was being tongue-in-cheek - carefuluniverse - December 3, 2001 - 03:04 UTC
• Michael, before accusing others try to comprehendo math. - alexander - November 30, 2001 - 21:11 UTC
  • further information needed - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 21:06 UTC
    • Whoops, I didn't make any sense ! - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 21:08 UTC
    • Vertical = parallel to g (local accel of gravity). - alexander - December 3, 2001 - 19:03 UTC
      • Yes, it occurred to me also. Your question was similarly silly - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 02:02 UTC
        • No, it is one way:either you KNOW or you DON'T. - alexander - December 4, 2001 - 20:25 UTC
          • and YOU DON'T - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 02:25 UTC