Michael,

>>>"Thinking introduces the mathematically unpredictable. Maybe you believe in Hari Seldon of the Foundation books by Asimov, but even Seldon did not claim certain determinism.">"There are software programs which can toss you to a randomly-selected site in the world wide web...">"Mechanics cannot predict that much."

• Luis, your problem is that you mix "math" with determinism. - alexander - December 1, 2001 - 00:46 UTC
  • If you think so, then I am not wrong and could be vice versa - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 03:56 UTC
  • Please, tell us how math and determinism are separated - luis_hamburgh - December 1, 2001 - 16:25 UTC
    • Luis,fortunately I DO teach theoretical physics(how did you know - alexander - December 3, 2001 - 18:51 UTC
      • Logic is cross-disciplinary - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 01:53 UTC
        • Einstein not a theist - yanniru - December 4, 2001 - 14:22 UTC
          • Einstein was a theist - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 15:45 UTC
          • Both views are supportable - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 19:21 UTC
            • No, Einstein was very bothered by being called an atheist (nt) - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 19:37 UTC
              • I think, Einstein was weak believer. - alexander - December 4, 2001 - 20:11 UTC
                • Actually - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 20:29 UTC
                  • But we must be careful... - bladesinger - December 4, 2001 - 23:40 UTC
                    • Of course - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 00:38 UTC
                      • Please define the god that Einstein believed in - yanniru - December 5, 2001 - 14:36 UTC
                        • Let me try - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 15:49 UTC
                          • Fortunately, there were never any evidences of God. - alexander - December 5, 2001 - 17:51 UTC
                            • You ignore the evidence - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 19:24 UTC
                              • Really? Evidence? What evidence (of god) do you have? - alexander - December 6, 2001 - 00:49 UTC
                                • My evidence for god - yanniru - December 6, 2001 - 16:06 UTC
                              • Al, you never responded further to this discussion - harvey1 - December 6, 2001 - 02:41 UTC
                            • Have you _defined_ precisely which God(s) you say do not exist - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 23:05 UTC
                        • which isn't saying much? - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 23:01 UTC
              • attribution needed in science, news, law - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 20:30 UTC
                • Wait, wait, okay, I've conjured up my first quote - harvey1 - December 4, 2001 - 20:40 UTC
                  • * * * * * *|| * * * * *|| * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ! ! ! - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 02:22 UTC
                  • Seems that Einstein believed in a mysterious force - yanniru - December 5, 2001 - 14:37 UTC
                    • This mysterious force is called math (logic). - alexander - December 5, 2001 - 19:16 UTC
                      • You apparently don't understand Einstein - harvey1 - December 5, 2001 - 19:36 UTC
                        • learned everything they know about biography by studying math - carefuluniverse - December 5, 2001 - 22:06 UTC
• are you really going deep or just goofing around? - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 03:48 UTC
  • Call me Pluto - luis_hamburgh - December 1, 2001 - 17:07 UTC
    • Hi, Pluto ! - carefuluniverse - December 1, 2001 - 22:44 UTC
      • Evasive, shmevasive! - luis_hamburgh - December 2, 2001 - 20:59 UTC
        • I do not believe in your sincerity - carefuluniverse - December 3, 2001 - 03:02 UTC
          • The trouble with me - luis_hamburgh - December 3, 2001 - 18:36 UTC
            • how do you know that no-one knows? - carefuluniverse - December 3, 2001 - 20:01 UTC
              • Actually (my favorite word)... - luis_hamburgh - December 3, 2001 - 22:46 UTC
                • I do love self=referential confusion syntax - carefuluniverse - December 4, 2001 - 01:56 UTC
        • Besides, I was being tongue-in-cheek - carefuluniverse - December 3, 2001 - 03:04 UTC