Phil.o.sofir: ***Time, the essence of measurment by man, is in fact meaningless except as a convenient tool for squeezing logic out of our surrondings, just like mathematics. Its a good thing for us, but should be seen as a useful idea and not reality.

Greg: Experiments done with three syncronized atomic clocks, one at rest on the ground, one flying east, and one flying west, show nano-second gains and losses in time which are in accord with Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity WithiN an approved of margin of error. This means that the caesium-133 atoms in these clocks were giving off different vibrations of microwave radiation during specified atomic rearrangements. This demonstrates that Time is indeed a dimension in and of itself, an objective reality that is far from meaningless, but instead is of significant consequence in our understanding of the nature of reality.

Phil.o.sofir: As far as life is concerned, it seems as if there is a conception that life IS THE main purpose of the universe, and only then do you apply that it is expanding as long as possible "for Life". This coincidence is a bias of this belief that life is the "goal" or purpose of the universe, thus supposing that it is intelligently designed, and thus supposing that such a designer could only have been a god............... We are here, it is present, awareness is neat...

Greg: All of the universe is evolving, first through elemental evolution in the stellar furnace, then towards life in the formation of organic molecules, then towards Awareness with the formation of life, and then towards Self-Awareness through biological evolution. It is not hard to suppose that this is the purpose of the Universe, since it is the result of all the evolution that preceeds it. The coincidence I speak of is not a bias of any kind since it is merely an observation of the nature of the Laws of Physics, and the consequences of the effects of one in particular on the Universe as a whole.

• Re: time and life is/is not coincidence - bzrd - October 7, 1999 - 15:27 UTC
  • Probability again/evolution - Phil.o.sofir - October 7, 1999 - 23:40 UTC
    • Re: Probability again/evolution - bzrd - October 8, 1999 - 11:24 UTC
      • evidence - Phil.o.sofir - October 9, 1999 - 00:47 UTC
• no time/life is not ultimate purpose - Phil.o.sofir - October 7, 1999 - 23:27 UTC
  • Re: no time/life is not ultimate purpose - Greg_Armel/">Greg Armel - October 8, 1999 - 03:42 UTC
    • What goes 7500mph faster when going east ? - Phil.o.sofir - October 9, 1999 - 00:29 UTC
      • Re: What goes 7500mph faster when going east ? - Greg_Armel/">Greg Armel - October 9, 1999 - 03:38 UTC
        • Al was one of the greatest thinkers - Phil.o.sofir - October 9, 1999 - 13:36 UTC
          • Re: Al was one of the greatest thinkers - Greg_Armel/">Greg Armel - October 9, 1999 - 15:05 UTC
            • Caught in each own perceptions - Phil.o.sofir - October 9, 1999 - 15:49 UTC
        • Now thats the kind of thinking which is rewarding to see :) (no text) Smiles! - Phil.o.sofir - October 9, 1999 - 13:39 UTC