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Re: What Goes 7500mph Faster When Going East ?

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Posted by Greg Armel/">Greg Armel on October 9, 1999 03:38:59 UTC

Phil.o.sofir: ***What is this 7500mph/equator/and center of earths gravity? A speed is a speed, do you mean in realation to fuel consumption per mile travelled or something? Anyway, you are basing your argument it seems on some kind of principle which applies to earth and gravity which has no relationship to the passage of time as it is theorized, and as especially as related to the entire universe. I do understand that atomic clocks are the best known, better yet would be clocks based upon the movement and relationships between electrons which they are currently working on now as well as for units of wieght. All this said, how does your atomic clock experiment prove that time is tangable and not simply a very good and convienient tool for mans system of measurements?

Greg: It seems you need to aquaint yourself with Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. Nowadays one second is defined as 9,192,631,770 vibrations of the microwave radiation emitted by caesium-133 atoms during a specified atomic rearrangement. An atomic clock counts this number of vibrations in each and every second of its operation. According to Your view of Time, three such syncronized clocks should remain syncronized no matter what their physical relationship to one another is. But according to Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, the measure of Time is dependant upon one's proximity to an object of mass(a source of gravity) or it is dependant upon one's acceleration in relation to the speed of light. In the experiment, the eastbound clock lost 59 nanoseconds(billionths of a second), compared to the clock on the ground. The westbound clock gained 273 nanoseconds. The predicted discrepancy, using Einstein's Theory, was 40 nanoseconds and 275 nanoseconds. The experiment confirmed two distinct effects on time. The first is that Time flows faster at high altitude where gravity is slightly weaker. This affected both clocks in the planes in much the same way, in comparison to the clock on the ground. The difference in the clocks on the planes resulted from the second, more subtle effect on time that resulted from their relative speed according to whether they were flying with the direction of earth's rotation or against it.

The predictions, using Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, were within the approved of margin of error, proving that Time, as a dimension in and of itself, is an objective reality. In your subjective perception of Time, how might you suggest that atoms could come to disagree about the passage of Time? Understand that you are disputing an understanding of Albert Einstein approved of by the entire scientific community and verified by experiment when you do so.

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