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Posted by Rich on February 2, 2001 23:04:54 UTC

I am an athiest, well I guess you can use that word. I always denote that word with apathy though. I like to just say, I don't buy this god Language Removed. The problem I have with your statements is that there ARE very well educated and smarter people that believe in god. I went to a Christian Brothers of De la Salle college in New York. There I was taught and very good friends with brothers that believed that there was a god. My religion teacher who I had for 2 classes taught me about the issues of the bible. That the stories were only stories at points. That there were problems within it. I was taught in Physics by two teachers that were well beyond smart, but they believed in god. My math teachers believed in god, from Calc I to Diff Eq. I was very close friends with a brother with an Astronomy PhD and another brother with a PhD in Math. He had lots of knowledge in fractals and that wacky chaos stuff. Both believed in god. The best teacher in Civil Engineering believed in god. So let us not equate education to athiesm or lack there of to theism.
I think the problem you have is that you can't properly equate the dilema that athiests like us have. Well, if there isn't a god, then where the hell are we? Why is there a universe? You can scientifically determine everything about processes and reactions in the universe, but you still come to the point, well then where the hell are we? What is outside of the universe? What was before the universe? What will be after? Religious gurus go on to say that god made the universe and that god is eternal, that he never needed to be created. Of course this is in complete defiance of the atheists problem recognition. Can anything be eternal? I think not, I think.
When I was a younger kid, I accepted that god made the universe. It made sense. The universe had to be made by someone. If it wasn't made by god, then how was it made and where! Quickly, though, I got out of that thought of mind and then began to believe that that state of reasoning is no good because where did god come from? So god doesn't solve the equation for me. BUT IT STILL STANDS TO BE QUESTIONED, where does the universe exist? Is there something much larger that the universe is just a piece of? ETC...
Once you make this step, you can understand that atheism is hardly an open and closed case. There is something that it hasn't answered, just as theism hasn't answered. The difference between the two is that I feel there have been too many theisms in the world that have made way for other ones and the following religions always took pieces of predecessing religions. So I don't believe that religion on Earth has in any way shown any proof of there being a god in existance. But as I have mentioned one thousand times in this post, there is no satisfactory answer yet as to the origins of the universe and the universe's role in whatever thing it is.

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