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Nebulous Concepts Versus Materialism

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Posted by Harvey on November 3, 2004 16:19:21 UTC

Harvey:"I think the premise that the universe is eternal without there being a 'God' is more problematical than the universe being infinite or finite as a result of God's existence." Mario: Why? The only justification for that that I can see is that God is a more nebulous concept that can fit any hole you feel like putting it into.

'God' is a much more parsimonious solution to the universe versus a materialist one. In the case of a materialist solution, we should eliminate as real the following:

mathematical order
physical laws
material properties (i.e., universals)
objects as real

I can't accept these concepts as epiphenomenal. In addition, the concept of 'God' is easily deducible based on believable premises:

1) The universe has mathematical laws in place that cause the universe to behave mathematically

2) Mathematical laws stem from simple axioms being 'true'

3) Truth is a real concept that exists

4) Truth is equivalent to 'intelligence'

C) God exists

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