But, Aurino, you are trying to convince yourself that science is finished and that's that. Science is not finished. There are some physical impossibilities that we do know about (e.g., human beings with this current biological frame can only run so fast, only grow so high, etc). But, there are other things that is based on our knowledge of the cosmos that, if complete, then it is surely impossible to approach the speed of light and surpass it. However, physics is not complete and we do not know the future of physics any more than we know the technology of ET civilizations if there are any 'out there'. We have to assume ignorance and preface all of our statements of the future as "if our current understanding holds, then...". I personally don't think a primitive species is ready to decode the scientific limitations imposed by God of space travel or many other technologies, especially since physics is postulating that space can travel faster than light and the theories of gravitation are vastly incomplete at a quantum level.

• Nonsense! - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 15:37 UTC
  • Not so - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 15:50 UTC
    • So! - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 15:56 UTC
      • And so... - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 17:18 UTC
        • You may be in good company, but my company is even better - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 17:49 UTC
          • But, my scientists can beat up your scientists - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 17:52 UTC
            • I have Einstein on my side... - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 17:59 UTC
              • This just occurred to me - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 18:03 UTC
                • No - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 18:57 UTC
              • Reminds me of when Woody Allen brought in Marshall McCluhan - whomi - July 4, 2003 - 19:23 UTC
    • The Warp Drive metric... - bruce - July 4, 2003 - 20:27 UTC
      • Some papers on the subject.. - bruce - July 4, 2003 - 20:36 UTC
      • I have found the answer to the problem - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 21:05 UTC
        • Ah, and if they are light years away... - lysithea - July 4, 2003 - 23:43 UTC
        • Right on... - bruce - July 5, 2003 - 20:46 UTC
          • It's cool stuff - harvey1 - July 6, 2003 - 01:48 UTC
            • Really? - lysithea - July 6, 2003 - 20:20 UTC
              • Good luck at getting a job at NASA. - bruce - July 7, 2003 - 01:40 UTC
                • Theoretical Physicist. - lysithea - July 7, 2003 - 02:00 UTC
                  • Do you believe it? What license does it give? - carefuluniverse - July 7, 2003 - 04:44 UTC
                • Bruce is vermin; exterminate him immediately - carefuluniverse - July 7, 2003 - 04:25 UTC
                  • and here's why I wrote that (though I am actually pretty nice) - carefuluniverse - July 12, 2003 - 21:22 UTC
• Out of fairness - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 17:01 UTC
  • Also out of fairness - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 17:15 UTC
    • Since when you became a crank? - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 17:39 UTC
      • Again, not proved wrong - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 17:41 UTC
        • And what exactly would those be? - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 17:51 UTC
          • Apples and oranges... - smartguy - July 4, 2003 - 18:37 UTC
            • One point of correction - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 18:51 UTC
              • Seeing through Harv's BS - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 19:22 UTC
                • BS? - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 20:28 UTC
          • Alrighty Then... - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 18:47 UTC
            • As I expected, you dodged the issue - aurino_ - July 4, 2003 - 19:15 UTC
              • Can't turn it around - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 20:21 UTC
                • Correction - harvey1 - July 4, 2003 - 20:30 UTC