Since this is an astronomical forum, first and foremost the creationists should address the problem of the size of our Milky Way, 100,000 light years, and the conclusion from the finite speed of light that the light we see from stars in this galaxy is up to 70,000 years old.

No creationist has ever satisfactorily solved this problem. It is the most direct proof that the creation of the world could not have happened in six days some 6,000 years ago.

This is the most dramatic disagreement between thw facts of science and the bible.

It is proof that the bible is not correct in a literal sense. If you cannot refute these facts of science, then you should give up the literal interpetation of your translation of the bible.

• Ok. - kc2gwx - September 26, 2002 - 19:24 UTC
  • Actually, the article that I had to post... - richard - September 26, 2002 - 20:48 UTC
    • It's the speed of light in vacuum that counts - yanniru - September 26, 2002 - 23:27 UTC
      • Is there "Dark Matter" in a Vacuum, by the way? - carefuluniverse - September 27, 2002 - 01:16 UTC
        • Yes, within the galactic limits - yanniru - September 27, 2002 - 15:57 UTC
      • You cannot do all three - carefuluniverse - September 27, 2002 - 01:21 UTC
        • All religions are compatible with science - yanniru - September 27, 2002 - 16:01 UTC
          • All science fiction is compatible with science too, so... - occupant - September 27, 2002 - 20:50 UTC
          • All religions seem alike when you are in the dark - carefuluniverse - October 7, 2002 - 05:41 UTC
            • All created by God - yanniru - October 7, 2002 - 13:16 UTC
              • as were all viruses - carefuluniverse - October 8, 2002 - 01:52 UTC
                • Sorry but that is your logic - yanniru - October 8, 2002 - 12:58 UTC
                  • It is universal logic, which you seem to evade - carefuluniverse - October 8, 2002 - 16:33 UTC
          • God, science and truth should agree. - bobsr - January 26, 2003 - 17:33 UTC
      • Have you ever heard.. - fasteddy - September 27, 2002 - 05:36 UTC
        • Yes- God gave us free will - yanniru - September 27, 2002 - 16:03 UTC
          • And Can take it away again after we screw up? - occupant - September 27, 2002 - 20:57 UTC
• Please Address The Astronomical Distance Question - yanniru - September 27, 2002 - 16:05 UTC
  • well hmm... - emperor__alikar - September 28, 2002 - 03:00 UTC
    • Get an education, will ya? - richard - September 28, 2002 - 04:23 UTC
      • Define effected - kc2gwx - September 28, 2002 - 15:14 UTC
        • Effected? - richard - September 28, 2002 - 16:33 UTC
      • Then why is a black hole black? - emperor__alikar - September 29, 2002 - 19:10 UTC
        • Photons have no mass - yanniru - September 30, 2002 - 12:26 UTC
          • Fossils aren't a problem. Light slowing down. - emperor__alikar - September 30, 2002 - 21:14 UTC
            • creationists to prove the light is 6,000 years old ???? - yanniru - October 1, 2002 - 13:30 UTC
            • Aaron, my friend - harvey1 - October 1, 2002 - 19:01 UTC
              • Correction - harvey1 - October 1, 2002 - 19:03 UTC
                • Actually, no. - kc2gwx - October 2, 2002 - 11:59 UTC
                  • You'll have to give examples - harvey1 - October 2, 2002 - 16:24 UTC
                    • Oops, I mean beyond the Cretaceous! - harvey1 - October 2, 2002 - 16:27 UTC
                  • You might be correct - harvey1 - October 2, 2002 - 17:05 UTC
              • If Aaron & Sam don't heed, we may guess at their true purpose - something - October 1, 2002 - 23:58 UTC
              • Please tell me. - emperor__alikar - October 2, 2002 - 01:07 UTC
                • Listen to other Christians - harvey1 - October 2, 2002 - 02:51 UTC
                  • Darwin was a Christian. Do you think THAT has swayed him? - something - October 2, 2002 - 03:19 UTC
                    • hmm be careful who you refer to... - emperor__alikar - October 4, 2002 - 17:48 UTC
                      • Huh? - harvey1 - October 4, 2002 - 18:10 UTC
                        • I believe this is what he meant... - kc2gwx - October 5, 2002 - 04:24 UTC
                          • I need the source - harvey1 - October 5, 2002 - 13:20 UTC
                      • The eye is one of the easier things to evolve - carefuluniverse - October 4, 2002 - 18:10 UTC
                        • Hmm.... - kc2gwx - October 5, 2002 - 04:37 UTC
                      • I recall - fasteddy - October 4, 2002 - 18:51 UTC
                • It is proven better than that the Bible is correct - something - October 2, 2002 - 03:27 UTC