Alex,

When I say the term 'divine order' I am talking about a holy principle that restricts mathematics, laws of physics, physical constants, evolution, etc all to in accordance with this one holy principle. Why do you object to this notion?

Warm regards, Harv

• You're both theists. n/t - luis_hamburgh - January 20, 2002 - 15:26 UTC
  • Theist accepts that God moves things without proof. - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 21:38 UTC
    • Acknowledge Godel's Theorem, or remain a theist! - luis_hamburgh - January 21, 2002 - 17:39 UTC
      • Luis, looks like you are unaware og Goedel theorem. - alexander - January 21, 2002 - 18:00 UTC
        • Penrose on Godel - yanniru - January 22, 2002 - 15:59 UTC
          • Where is it? - harvey1 - January 22, 2002 - 21:33 UTC
            • Penrose's interpretation - yanniru - January 23, 2002 - 15:34 UTC
              • The first paragraph of Godel's paper - yanniru - January 25, 2002 - 00:37 UTC
                • Must be careful - harvey1 - January 25, 2002 - 02:12 UTC
                  • something different than being derived - yanniru - January 25, 2002 - 15:05 UTC
                    • Don't rely on me - harvey1 - January 25, 2002 - 16:24 UTC
        • Alex, how is you know Godel better than him? - luis_hamburgh - January 28, 2002 - 01:29 UTC
• No, I do not object any principle. As long as it exists. - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 20:56 UTC
  • Can't be - harvey1 - January 20, 2002 - 21:12 UTC
    • Interactions, interactions. - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 21:22 UTC
      • But - harvey1 - January 20, 2002 - 21:28 UTC
        • I do not see any problem here. - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 21:48 UTC
          • I'm talking about a much bigger role for a unification principle - harvey1 - January 20, 2002 - 22:05 UTC
            • I do not object-it is all math.No special arrangement for life - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 22:22 UTC
              • As for different fundamental constants - harvey1 - January 21, 2002 - 04:42 UTC
                • Alex: Math universe depends on NON-equivalence - dolphin - January 21, 2002 - 07:34 UTC
                  • Alan, no god(s) nor their acts were observed. - alexander - January 21, 2002 - 17:38 UTC
                    • "Explains" is a merry-go-round - dolphin - January 22, 2002 - 09:27 UTC
                      • Hey Alan - aurino - January 22, 2002 - 14:56 UTC
                        • Thank you, Aurino. But Google didn't find it! - dolphin - January 27, 2002 - 03:55 UTC
                • No antropic principle needed. - alexander - January 21, 2002 - 18:08 UTC
                  • So, is this how you construe science? - harvey1 - January 21, 2002 - 18:18 UTC
                    • Harvey, those "papers" are not even worth their paper. - alexander - January 21, 2002 - 18:34 UTC
                  • Bulk - harvey1 - January 21, 2002 - 21:22 UTC
                    • s/b bunk (nt) - harvey1 - January 21, 2002 - 21:22 UTC
                    • I am just more open minded. - alexander - January 23, 2002 - 00:00 UTC
                  • Let's define open-mindedness - harvey1 - January 23, 2002 - 00:27 UTC
                    • Alex, let's define open-mindedness - harvey1 - January 23, 2002 - 00:30 UTC
                      • Oops, see the top where I reposted this. (nt) - harvey1 - January 23, 2002 - 00:32 UTC