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Posted by Harvey on October 30, 2001 02:55:23 UTC

Mark,

>>>Whether the chain has a "first link" or is infact looped or infinite... there will always be an element of mystery as Harv says, because the "first link" (fundamental axiom) has no other "link" to refer too. This axiom is then undefined, and is simply accepted to be obviously true (postulate). This however, is the definition of an assumption, not a fact. Therefore, since all "links" are derived from the previous, and the beginning is ill-defined (assumed)... then the reality of the entire chain itself is questionable, because the origin of every successive link can be traced back to the beginning of the chain. The origin of that first link, whether or not it actualy exists, is steeped in mystery.

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Harvey, so far no god(s) were found in many millenia quest. - alexander - October 30, 2001 - 16:19 UTC
- I don't think so - harvey1 - October 30, 2001 - 16:35 UTC
  - I would surely welcome such god (call it math, or nature). - alexander - October 30, 2001 - 17:00 UTC
    - re: the Logos - harvey1 - October 30, 2001 - 17:22 UTC
      - L:ife existence depends on initial conditions. - alexander - October 30, 2001 - 18:12 UTC
        
        Reduce further - harvey1 - October 30, 2001 - 19:04 UTC
        
        Remember the position of a wave (mathematical uncertainty) - alexander - October 30, 2001 - 20:53 UTC
        
        Schrodinger's equation - harvey1 - October 30, 2001 - 21:28 UTC
        
        No, because actually SE follows from UP. - alexander - October 31, 2001 - 17:36 UTC
        
        So are you saying - harvey1 - October 31, 2001 - 20:59 UTC
        
        Harvey, position and momentum ARE uncertain at ANY level. - alexander - November 2, 2001 - 18:11 UTC
        
        Huh? - harvey1 - November 2, 2001 - 19:50 UTC
        
        Classic position and momentum are not entangled. - alexander - November 5, 2001 - 09:51 UTC
        
        In that case - harvey1 - November 5, 2001 - 20:35 UTC
    - I still wonder - aximili - November 1, 2001 - 04:46 UTC
      - Mathematical symmetries. - alexander - November 2, 2001 - 18:16 UTC
      - Mathematical symmetries. - alexander - November 2, 2001 - 18:16 UTC
    - I still wonder - aximili - November 1, 2001 - 04:48 UTC

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