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A Correction To Joseph Replies

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Posted by Joseph Roser on March 20, 2001 22:55:49 UTC

I should have stated that the irrreducible mass energy of the black hole increases by the original mass energy of the particles plus the rest mass derived from the gravitational potential if they interact on the way in. The hole only increases by the original mass energy of ther particles if they do not interact. The former violates energy conservation and that is certainly unusual.

Sorry for the incorrect statement.

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interact - yanniru - March 21, 2001 - 00:20 UTC
- more on interact - joseph - March 21, 2001 - 16:37 UTC
  - No energy conservation violation is allowed by time symmetry. - alexander - March 21, 2001 - 20:35 UTC
    - joseph replies to Alexander - joseph - March 22, 2001 - 12:22 UTC
      - Do not forget the energy of the nucleous - yanniru - March 22, 2001 - 13:29 UTC
        
        joseph replies - joseph - March 22, 2001 - 16:33 UTC
        
        m=E/c^2. - alexander - March 22, 2001 - 19:08 UTC
        
        joseph to Alexander - joseph - March 22, 2001 - 20:41 UTC
        
        No energy-mass violation on large scale. - alexander - March 22, 2001 - 22:57 UTC
        
        joseph to Alexander - joseph - March 23, 2001 - 16:37 UTC
        
        Relativistic mass-energy-gravipotential always conservs. - alexander - March 23, 2001 - 19:48 UTC
        
        gravitational potential energy - joseph - March 25, 2001 - 12:02 UTC
        
        Bruce - bruce - March 26, 2001 - 22:00 UTC
        
        Max Born - joseph - March 27, 2001 - 16:41 UTC
        
        kinetic mass...yuck - fines137 - April 13, 2001 - 18:44 UTC
      - Of course. Mass and energy is the same thing. - alexander - March 22, 2001 - 18:18 UTC
      - Why is action "kinked"? I do not see any "kinks" here. - alexander - March 22, 2001 - 19:05 UTC
  - No kinetic energy at infinity for the neutrino.. - bruce - March 22, 2001 - 05:00 UTC
    - joseph replies to Bruce - joseph - March 22, 2001 - 16:52 UTC
      - So what? - bruce - March 22, 2001 - 20:27 UTC
        
        to Bruce - joseph - March 22, 2001 - 20:48 UTC
        
        Your not.. - bruce - March 22, 2001 - 23:26 UTC
        
        I do not agree - joseph - March 25, 2001 - 16:57 UTC
        
        some more - joseph - March 25, 2001 - 17:01 UTC
        
        See - bruce - March 25, 2001 - 21:09 UTC
        
        What is negative energy? - joseph - March 26, 2001 - 16:00 UTC
        
        vacuum energy can be negative. - bruce - March 26, 2001 - 23:39 UTC
        
        Wormhole existence Vs stability - fines137 - April 3, 2001 - 20:46 UTC
        
        Annihilation of photons is seen on daily basis. - alexander - March 27, 2001 - 17:21 UTC
        
        what - egauldin - March 28, 2001 - 02:45 UTC
        
        hv is a photon energy E=hv - alexander - March 29, 2001 - 23:39 UTC
        
        No kidding - bruce - March 25, 2001 - 21:06 UTC
        
        Mass and energy is the same thing - alexander - March 27, 2001 - 17:27 UTC
  - No kinetic energy at infinity for the neutrino.. - bruce - March 22, 2001 - 05:01 UTC

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