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Re: SCIENCE? What Do You Now Of SCIENCE?

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Posted by Jim Schings on January 20, 2001 07:46:32 UTC

>You are using science as a tool yourself? Exactly what evidence are you considering? none. You sit at home, do zero research and presume that all you know is all that can be and prounounce you've used
"science".<

I have EE/ME degrees. I spent 30 years working with IBM Corp. Several on the shuttle downlink. I spent another 4 or 5 in charge of 30 or so IBM contractors that were involved in the NASA program. I have on site investigated Toledo Ohio and Cleveland sightings. I also investigated several other claims re: spirits, ghosts, etc.

>That's not science. That's swallowing what you've been fed by the most easy means.<

Yes.

>Last February Clinton issued an Executive Order that was removed all Civil Liberties in the event of a "National Security Crisis" and removed the previous state of Martial Law with its military tribunal (trial) and allowed any and all citizens to be imprisoned without any reason nor explanation. .. and it slipped right past you!<

Well, you have paraphrased slightly, but we have always had Martial Law and Presidential rule potential. And it has been exercised in many cases . This was no secret. Remember the Japanese internment in WWII, Curfews during riots etc. Wake up.

>WHY would a President who had just been impeached, and was a lame duck president and
SHOULD have been worrying about his legacy go to such an extreme to issue such an executive
order ---- unless he felt a particular *singular event* loomed on the horizon?<

Well what do you think that event will be. I bet you were one of the Art Bell, crank up flashlight buyers for Y2K too, right? If it ain't one doom disaster it's another.

>Perhaps you have not seen the evidence from the Roswell crash .. yet it exists.<

Oh, so you do have it? Look, in science it is procedure for the remarkable claimer to provide evidence. No one has it. Lots of people claim they have it.

>What is it you DO know?<

I know science and and human nature. I have investigated several claims and they all wreak of the same fanasy prone "I wannna believe" signature. No single shred of physical evidence is available. Photos are always blurry and fakable, movies are worse and/or crude fakes. (Mexico City, Alien Autopsy, etc.)

>Man has landed on the moon -- and as yet has not had any fact-to-face conacts with these "aliens".<

I am pretty sure yes. But again, if you are sure they have, then provide a single shred of evidence . Not a claim made by a book.

>Are you so sure? What did happen with the moon?<

I and several employees listened to every piece of downlink from the moon missions. NASA is FULL of civilian contractors. How long do you think they could keep anything like this secret.

>HOw about considering THIS image from a NASA web site? <

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/alsj.trio.jpg

Oh please. Get recent.
Yes, and this is SO obvious and NASA released it anyway.

How about Cydonia, how about Kermit the Frog, and on and on.

>There is tons of *HARD* info out there about what has been going on and continues to go on. Go as
far back to the biblical story of "Sodom & Gomorah" and you can read an accurate description of a nuclear mushroom cloud..and hear how the earth is to be "salted" for generation after generation and nothing will grow (irradiated soils) and hear how Ruth is warned if she turns back she will be turned to a pillar of "salt".<

I like your free form association. This form of retrofitting "facts" has been going on for 100's of years. Ask, Cayce and Nostrodamous' followers.
Were you paying attention you'd know that in the last 15 months the NSA (National Security
Administration) has had to black out images from NSA's own SOHO satellite which images our
Sun. What could be of national security interest on the proximity of our Sun? >You should see the
unedited imagery -- it is nothing less than mind boggling.<

You have seen it? Me too. You famililar with forward error correction, bit redundancy and special protocols. DES is NOT being used.

>Where's your science? It is only a convenient word to cover your failure to get off your arse.<

Well, I think I did get off my arse. Both with my education, experience and other credentials. Being the member of a paranoid militia group is not what I call science.

>The *TRUTH* of what is on Mars is on Mars UnEarthed .and it shows current, imediate activity and undeniable artificial constructs.<

You need to do some reading or "infinite", "random" and the human mind's desire to pattern.
Then go back and look at Kermit.

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