I se a whole range of god possibilities. Most of which would not be considered god by most people. Included in this spectrum of possibilities is a rather abstract or distant god that makes up the mathematics and selects the constants of physics, and then just lets it all evolve on its own. Or it could be a very personal god. No way to tell. I have more confidence in my belief that there is a supernatural and that the prophecies of prophet may be true, regardless of whether there is a god.

But in my day to day existence, I make the assumption that there is something spiritual out there, or maybe in here. And I try to understand everything on that basis. One conclusion that now, as a result of discussions on this forum, is becoming clear to me, is that if there is a god, then science generates the present day scriptures of god, because they more than any other literature present the known truth.

The arguments on this forum tend to be between those who believe scriptures written over a thousand years ago, and those who are materialists. I see nothing wrong with being a materialist- it's a very logical conclusion to come to. But the argument on this forum leaves out the scientists among us who are spiritual as well. It's not that we are against science as those who only believe the old scriptures. We actually elevate science to the highest levels of thought. The same kind of lofty inspiration that was recorded in those old scriptures is now going into scientific thinking. And we are beginning to understand the true nature of the universe.

There is still a gap between science and religion. But I am confident that with the inspiration of god, exceptionally creative scientists will soon close that gap. Science, especially physics, is done intuitively. You get a hunch that looks good. Then begins the hard work of fleshing out the hypothesis, developing the theory and testing it. But it all starts with inspiration, the same kind of inspiration that gives us poetry, and religion. Even if there were no god, I can see how elements on the supernatural plane can communicate inspiring ideas from one human to another. But that's another story.

• is faith not needed? - jisbond - August 28, 2001 - 02:12 UTC
  • Could it be said... - rggarfinkle - August 28, 2001 - 04:40 UTC
    • Which commands - yanniru - August 28, 2001 - 11:26 UTC
      • You could not be more wrong! - jisbond - August 28, 2001 - 16:28 UTC
        • Now I understand the essential difference - yanniru - August 28, 2001 - 21:02 UTC
          • Did you also see where we differ here too? - jisbond - August 29, 2001 - 19:22 UTC
            • Meaningless words - yanniru - August 30, 2001 - 12:27 UTC
              • What is the difference between Allah and Santa? - alexander - August 31, 2001 - 03:11 UTC
                • Yes - yanniru - August 31, 2001 - 12:51 UTC
                  • lol - stormcrow - August 31, 2001 - 13:01 UTC
                • Santa was a saint - jisbond - August 31, 2001 - 18:33 UTC
              • English Literature - jisbond - August 31, 2001 - 18:21 UTC
      • Applause your way. Smoke a cigar - rggarfinkle - August 29, 2001 - 01:40 UTC
        • May Allah be bless us with useful Knowledge always.. - jisbond - August 29, 2001 - 19:17 UTC
          • We are forced to question - yanniru - August 30, 2001 - 12:30 UTC
            • THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST WROTE - jisbond - August 31, 2001 - 18:39 UTC
              • Hm, filling brain with knowledge pushes Allah out of it. - alexander - August 31, 2001 - 19:51 UTC
                • Allah is Allah the all-knowing eternal source of Knowledge - jisbond - September 1, 2001 - 02:04 UTC