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Posted by nåte on August 16, 1999 07:24:23 UTC

: your ultimate purpose is just that; YOUR ultimate purpose. And who is to say what that is besides you. : I do not believe there is one ultimate purpose for humanity.

So effectively what your eluding is... One makes his/her own destiny, and in so doing that is ones purpose?

This is similar to ethical relativism. i.e. What is right or wrong for me, or my culture, is what I or the culture find right or wrong in our own eyes.

In a sense your response has not dealt with all the elements of humanity. It is easy to use words that sound fancy, but when we say that there is no "one" purpose for humanity, this is broad brushing aside much of reality.

Take for instance moral relativism. It sounds convincing enough to believe, but when reality strikes, and these philosophical conjectures come to the test, they fall flat apart like shattered glass. When a relativist is asked obviously black and white questions dealing with issues such as, torturing babies, or stealing what is not yours, they respond with intellectual insights and philosophical jargon that seem to deal with the issues. But when the questions are asked at a more personal angle, the individual immediately submits that he/she would oppose such abominations if it were to affect themselves on a personal level.

If purpose to life is purely individualistic, this can create paradoxes. If purpose for one individual is that of striving to attain a status of wealth, fame and sexual pleasure, and then his neighbor next door seeks a celibate, humble lifestyle that is self giving and strives to help others, doesn't this present a paradox? How can "ultimate purpose" that is individualistic have such polarized differences? Likewise, who are these individuals accountable to so as to achieve their sense of "purpose"? i.e. that their purpose has been met. IOW, the purpose that they seek has finally been reached?

Finally, purpose presupposes plan. IOW, if we have a purpose, it is that purpose that brings about our existence. So, the individual that lives a carnal lifestyle is alive and living because this was his/her predestined plan of life to thus fulfill the plan of purpose?

My friend, God has a plan for your life, my life and all of humanity. If we choose to go our own way and live out what we want to do; we can. This is free agency. But because we have a choice, it thus infers absolute reality. We are accountable for everything we think and do. God created us for His glory, not for ourselves. Because of our sinful nature He, which was without sin, became sin for us. It is by this atonement that we have a free gift of everlasting life. It is by grace, through faith that we can be saved through Jesus Christ, the son of God.

God bless you

-nåte

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