It is obvious that everything in Universe (laws, forces, objects) come from math (where else from? from Santa Clause?).

We even know, HOW all natural laws, most known forces and some fundamental objects (like a photon) come from math, and the more we dig in depth the more we discover how other forces and objects come from math too (to be more accurate, from basic symmetries of space, time, motion, rotation, symmetries of wave function, etc.). To know ALL we have to know all conditions during development of forces and objects in early universe. We (scientists) work on it - both experimentally (high energy physics) and theoretically (theories of gravity and unified field, theories of elementary particles, etc.).

And guess, what? - we discover that everything comes even MORE from math (instead multiple non-related summetries it likely is one supersymmetry, instead multiple forces - one superforce, instead multiple elementary particles of two classes (fermions and bosons) - one object (string, or space-time) having 2 modes and many different states (of oscillations).

That is why there is no room for non-mathematical origin of laws, forces and objects in universe, and never were.

• God did it! - doctordick - June 22, 2001 - 20:24 UTC
  • Not one of your better posts - stormcrow - June 23, 2001 - 02:58 UTC
    • I think you missed the sarcasm (nt) - harvey1 - June 25, 2001 - 15:48 UTC
  • Elementary question to Richard the PhD who believes in gods. - alexander - June 25, 2001 - 19:46 UTC
    • It is all true by definition! - doctordick - June 25, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
      • No - stormcrow - June 27, 2001 - 00:22 UTC
        • My belief - yanniru - June 27, 2001 - 11:47 UTC
          • Do you have any reason for that belief? - stormcrow - June 27, 2001 - 14:11 UTC
            • We (science) are already playing god. - alexander - June 28, 2001 - 19:06 UTC
              • Earth provides good training - yanniru - June 29, 2001 - 00:23 UTC
                • Spontangeous creativity is imposiible without knowledge. - alexander - July 5, 2001 - 23:29 UTC
    • My answer - yanniru - June 26, 2001 - 13:06 UTC
      • But what about time? - highvoltage - June 26, 2001 - 17:32 UTC
        • Faulty reasoning - yanniru - June 27, 2001 - 11:42 UTC
          • I disagree - highvoltage - June 29, 2001 - 05:55 UTC
            • Mistaken - yanniru - July 3, 2001 - 13:23 UTC
• Please tell me how - paulm - June 22, 2001 - 22:17 UTC
• You seem to KNOW all this - highvoltage - June 25, 2001 - 17:19 UTC
• You seem to KNOW all this - highvoltage - June 25, 2001 - 17:27 UTC