Many have argued (correctly I think) that the old testament laws were based on the idea that women and children were the property of men and were designed to protect men's rights to their property.

I'm of the opinion that if God really existed then concepts like this would not have been so different in the recent past.

I'm not sure how the property idea applies in this particular case, however.

The idea here seems to be that if a woman is raped where she can be heard (in the city) and doesn't cry out then she's obviously a willing accomplice (what an outdated idea of the psychological trauma of rape!) and worthy of full punishment (death) as is the rapist.

If it happens in the field where she can't or is less likely to be heard then don't assume she's an accomplice. Only the rapist is guilty. What about the rapist in the city who threatens her if she yells out?

This reminds me of the unfair rationale the inquisitors used to discover witches.

Atheists have posted some very interesting bad-sounding biblical quotes. Here's one I noticed:

http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/nbwposath.htm

Another list, I can't remember exactly how I came across it, was more fun. It was intended as a cure when you see that Gideon's Bible in the hotel room. It had things like rabbits were supposed to eat their cud (well, they seem to be chewing something!), and some birds crawl on all fours! (were these very large insects?). Perhaps you'll enjoy them as much as I did.

• God must evolve - yanniru - April 20, 2001 - 11:08 UTC
  • God changes following changes in human imaginatin. - alexander - April 20, 2001 - 18:56 UTC
    • Yep - stormcrow - April 21, 2001 - 01:25 UTC
      • Religion should evolve - yanniru - April 21, 2001 - 13:26 UTC
        • It should ideally - stormcrow - April 21, 2001 - 13:46 UTC
  • If God evolves ethically... - stormcrow - April 21, 2001 - 01:37 UTC
    • god not perfect - yanniru - April 21, 2001 - 13:35 UTC
      • Not debunking you so much as... - stormcrow - April 21, 2001 - 13:50 UTC
        • Scriptural basis for pewrfection - yanniru - April 22, 2001 - 19:29 UTC
          • Probabilities - stormcrow - April 23, 2001 - 03:09 UTC
            • EM waves - yanniru - April 23, 2001 - 11:52 UTC
              • God looks like a man (not alien) because it was created by man. - alexander - April 27, 2001 - 22:17 UTC
                • I like your answers - yanniru - April 27, 2001 - 23:00 UTC
          • God is perfect and unchanging according to the Bible - johnpowell - April 23, 2001 - 16:00 UTC
            • Jesus grew in wisdom - yanniru - April 24, 2001 - 11:50 UTC
              • Yet another Biblical contradiction - stormcrow - April 24, 2001 - 20:51 UTC
• Atheism or Achristianity? - aurino - April 20, 2001 - 13:56 UTC
  • You have TOM - doctordick - April 20, 2001 - 14:45 UTC
  • 3 reasons to attack the scriptures - johnpowell - April 20, 2001 - 19:57 UTC
    • I think you lump too many things together. - paulm - April 20, 2001 - 22:30 UTC
      • Not nonsense at all - stormcrow - April 21, 2001 - 01:15 UTC
        • More on why I believe what I do. - paulm - April 21, 2001 - 06:21 UTC
      • The ancients had very little insight - johnpowell - April 23, 2001 - 16:22 UTC
        • You are right - paulm - April 23, 2001 - 19:24 UTC
  • The Concept of God - stormcrow - April 20, 2001 - 20:54 UTC
    • Thank you Mario - yanniru - April 22, 2001 - 19:05 UTC
      • And even in a universe without a god... - stormcrow - April 23, 2001 - 02:41 UTC