: Greg:(before) : ...Myself, I KNOW that laser beams adhere strictly to the gravitational curvature of space, unless otherwise naturally corrupted, not as a matter of probability, but as a matter of fact. LONG LIVE THE HEART OF ALBERT EINSTIEN! : David: : I'm glad you memtioned lasers. That's my old field. Actually it's easy to perform an experiment where the photons of a laser beam do not exactly follow the curvature of space. All you need is detectors that are sensitive to single photons, a two pin-hole screen and a laser beam that is so weak that it carries a sequence of photons rather than a multitude. Then upon detection of one photon after another we find that not a single one goes in a straight line, assuming the experimental arrangement is symmetrical. So by your argument, it appears that quantum mechanics does perform miracles. : Greg: : As you can see from my previous post, first you would have to convince me that your experiment prevented the natural corruption of the laser before I could accept that photons did not follow the gravitational curvature of space. Did your experiment take place in absolute darkness so as to eliminate the possibility of collision with other photons present? Was the semi-mirrored surface of the laser restricted to the size of a photon so as to assure that the sequence of photons were in a straight line to begin with? Seeming Miricles are often seen to be otherwise upon closer examination. Simple Light follows the gravitational curvature, as this is one of the classical proofs for Einstien's Theory of Relativity. Quantum Physics tries to disprove Einstien again and again, only to end up improving upon the proof thereof.

David: Yes to all the conditions you mention above. Actually the bending away from the curvature of space (which happens to be a straight line in the experiment) occurs at the two-pinhole screen. As each photon passes through the pinholes at the same time the quantum waves on the other side of the screen interfere so as to steer any individual detected photon away from the centerline of the experiment. This experiment has been repeated countless times and can be found in almost every optics textbook. As far as Einstein is concerned, he proposed a thought experiment that came to be known as the EPR paradox. Alan Aspect was the first to actually perform the experiment, and it has been repeated by other scientists several times. The results are always the same: particles are "entangled" so that some of their properties are communicated faster than the speed of light. Einstein thought this impossible. The bottom-line is that quantum mechanics defeats general relativity in an experiment where their respective predictions are contrary.

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