1. The universe is created out of the blue.

2. God is created out of the blue and he in turn creates the universe.

3. Nothing gets created out of the blue. I.e. The 'family tree' of all objects goes on infinitely.

Number 2 is very similar to number 1. The only difference most religous people would claim would be that god is non-detectable by humans and is therefore not really in this universe with us. They would also argue that god controls most or all objects in the universe.

But if this god was created out of the blue, why can't we just forget him and accept number 1? If you're religous and you choose number 3, why can't you accept that god is not needed in the equation.

Pls focus specifically on one of these two questions in any response, thankyou.

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• Possible Fallacy, Links - H - February 23, 1999 - 09:48 UTC
  • Re: Possible Fallacy, Links - LegendLength/">LegendLength - February 25, 1999 - 00:40 UTC
    • Re: Possible Fallacy, Links - nåte - February 25, 1999 - 01:38 UTC
      • Re: Possible Fallacy, Links - LegendLength/">LegendLength - March 29, 1999 - 16:31 UTC
        • Re: Possible Fallacy, Links - nåte - March 31, 1999 - 04:53 UTC
    • Re: Possible Fallacy, Links - H - February 25, 1999 - 11:40 UTC
• Natural laws are primary directives, all other directives are subordinate to these and place/time. - Phil.O.Sofir - February 23, 1999 - 12:08 UTC
• Re: The 3 possibilities of universe creation - Mark_Malone/">Mark Malone - February 23, 1999 - 21:16 UTC
• Why the Big Bang and Creation did not occur - King_Johnny/">King Johnny - February 24, 1999 - 13:46 UTC
  • empirical evidence seems to suggest otherwise... - nåte - February 25, 1999 - 01:33 UTC
    • Re: empirical evidence seems to suggest otherwise... - King_Johnny/">King Johnny - February 25, 1999 - 14:28 UTC
    • Re: empirical evidence seems to suggest otherwise... - Jbrotherton/">Jbrotherton - March 14, 1999 - 19:40 UTC
  • Re: Why the Big Bang and Creation did not occur - Anonymous - April 6, 1999 - 02:31 UTC