"Assuming the Bible is right. You must establish it as so first, in a way not based on faith, for me to accept it as scientifically valid."

I can not establish the Bible scientifically to you without faith. I believe the Bible with faith. But I think science supports it.

"---uming we have them?!?!? "

Umm.....Why is assuming changed into ---uming? Did you do that or did the blocking system?

" I don't think they know right from wrong (unless we train them)."

You: "It's a simple matter of complexity. An animal with a very basic brain will act primarily on instinct, but wolves, for example, cooperate in packs, have rudimentary societies, and will even care for their sick and wounded. There is obviously some level of cogitation there. The same is true of us. There's not a brick wall between 'man' and 'animal.'"

That's not what I said. Why did you post what I said and then talk about somthing else? I said they do not know right from wrong, not if they were smart. I know they are relitivally smart.
So what about right and wrong? I believe you are instillled with the knowledge of right and wrong, and animals are not. That was my point.

Me: "Chimps share only 97% of our DNA."

You: "No, I'm pretty sure it's 99. Gorillas share 97."

I'll take your word for it right know. I'm too tired to look it up.

• Ahh! - kc2gwx - June 7, 2002 - 05:19 UTC
  • Actually souls evolve - yanniru - June 7, 2002 - 14:24 UTC
    • This would explain why some here can't really be honest - carefuluniverse - June 7, 2002 - 21:56 UTC
      • You made a definite statement - yanniru - June 10, 2002 - 14:40 UTC
        • Point of view here confuses me - carefuluniverse - June 10, 2002 - 22:50 UTC
          • I did refute it - yanniru - June 11, 2002 - 15:16 UTC
            • I do play the trumpet in our community band - carefuluniverse - June 12, 2002 - 05:04 UTC
              • Confession-I make more noise than you - yanniru - June 12, 2002 - 14:29 UTC
                • My Uncle Dean was a drummer, and a great Patriot - carefuluniverse - June 12, 2002 - 17:44 UTC
        • Example: Caligula - carefuluniverse - June 11, 2002 - 05:45 UTC
          • Too much - yanniru - June 11, 2002 - 15:10 UTC
            • Bad answer...Caligula was considered a God - carefuluniverse - June 12, 2002 - 05:06 UTC
    • I like some of this and respond in that spirit - carefuluniverse - June 11, 2002 - 05:41 UTC
      • Typical - yanniru - June 11, 2002 - 15:27 UTC
• Societal Forces - stormcrow - June 8, 2002 - 23:22 UTC
  • human brain has randomizing pause-time - carefuluniverse - June 9, 2002 - 04:49 UTC
    • ...that others do not have, or that we have to a greater degree? - stormcrow - June 9, 2002 - 05:04 UTC
      • cerebral cortex - carefuluniverse - June 10, 2002 - 04:49 UTC
        • Did you know... - luis_hamburgh - June 10, 2002 - 14:25 UTC
          • nice one! - carefuluniverse - June 10, 2002 - 22:52 UTC
  • Soul - kc2gwx - June 11, 2002 - 17:31 UTC
    • Just saying you belive something doesn't mean anything - stormcrow - June 11, 2002 - 17:48 UTC
      • Soul part II - kc2gwx - June 11, 2002 - 20:32 UTC
        • Nah - stormcrow - June 11, 2002 - 20:55 UTC
          • Yeah. - kc2gwx - June 12, 2002 - 05:10 UTC
            • Mario gets frustrated, Part XXXIV - stormcrow - June 12, 2002 - 05:17 UTC
              • I've frustrated you 34 times? - kc2gwx - June 12, 2002 - 05:46 UTC