It would be nice to have a society which along with all possible freedoms gives to its members a good social protection against poverty, drugs, crime, poor quality goods and servces, etc.

But if those are entangled properties (freedom and safe life), then I would not mind to trade some freedom toward safety.

As to personal life, I have a good life in US ( much better than average) and I had a good life in Soviet Union. Not last factor was a good education from "tyranic regime", by the way (and I am not sure that being from not wealthy family I would afford equally good college in US).

And of course, being active was almost always very rewarding. (Although a couple of times my actions were not exactly what my bosses wanted and I had to get some heat from "above" (in both societies)).

(But who did not? I bet, anyone has a couple of stories to tell about subordination (actually non-subordination)).

So, freedom and safety - do they mix after all?

• Unfortunately... - harvey1 - October 31, 2001 - 03:58 UTC
  • No, it is heavy control in SE Asia, which lowers crime rate. - alexander - October 31, 2001 - 04:13 UTC
    • The point is - harvey1 - October 31, 2001 - 05:36 UTC
      • Still, what to do with our bad genes (greed, etc.)? - alexander - October 31, 2001 - 17:34 UTC
        • The state has no cure - harvey1 - October 31, 2001 - 17:57 UTC
          • So, do you deny existence of "bad" genes - alexander - October 31, 2001 - 18:47 UTC
            • The US is an ideal society - thom_cl - October 31, 2001 - 19:32 UTC
              • Where did you get wrong impression? - alexander - October 31, 2001 - 22:13 UTC
        • re: Evolutionary psychology - harvey1 - October 31, 2001 - 19:31 UTC
          • Skewed points of view - thom_cl - October 31, 2001 - 19:46 UTC
            • Not skewed - harvey1 - October 31, 2001 - 20:45 UTC
              • do you speak English? - thom_cl - October 31, 2001 - 22:16 UTC
                • Yes - harvey1 - October 31, 2001 - 22:36 UTC
                  • Just a couple of cents. - alexander - November 2, 2001 - 17:30 UTC
                    • LOL - smartguy - November 2, 2001 - 19:33 UTC