: : We view everything only in the human context, limited. : : How do we define life, E.T. and non E.T.? Can we say : : that planets, stars, atoms, protons, neutrinos everything : : big and small can be viewed as a life form? What constituits : : life??

: : Tön : :

: my idea of, "what constitutes life"...

: The opposite of entropy. Increasing complexity for : the purpose of itself.

: tell me what force is it in nature that "responds" : to this coding of information? Why does life spring : about merely by the presence of the correct arrangement : of protien chains?

: this question ponders in the minds of many evolutionists...

: many respond in stating that this "force of nature" : is just another natural law that we have not uncovered...

: my rebuttal:

: By what presupposition are you supposing a force of : nature? Why is it this life giving force is even present : in nature? It seems uncanny that such a beautifull : and amazing "force" would constitute itself in bringing : forth the astounding intricacies of life... aside : from chance...

: probability comes about only because there is the : presence of this "life giving force"... Life would : not exist merely on the arrangement of protien chains. : Life requires the "decoder" of information as well.

: I sometimes question that the "decoder" of life is by : far more astounding than the information in presence; albeit : the information encoded is indisputably amazing.

: I won't bother announcing why or how I believe I am : here. I'm sure you have pondered this same question. : I pray that you come to the understanding of the : one and true God. Its awesome to be a Christian. : I'm not ashamed whatsoever. What joy there is in life! :)

: Godbless...

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Agreed, agreed.

The question is directed more to perception and understanding of life. We obviously justify logic and understanding in the most human way. Indeed, it is somewhat limited but not at all a false way.

The question was on life on other planets. Life as we define in earth terms have the constraints of a structure, logic...again, only as we know it. To me, life means the opposite of NO life. I believe that the universe itself is a living entity. We are not seperated nor isolated from it.

To question, is there life on other planets seems to me is unquestionable. Since the universe is life and therefore planets are living.

I view life and the universe as a whole and not dualistically. Do you see physical and metaphysical as two seperate entities, at best as cause and effect? This is a very European philosophy and dominates western science and religion as we know it.

Decoding ?? Why? Trying to make sense of life by breaking them apart into convenient categories, labels, numbers, and hierarchies that merely pacify our curiosity and insecurities.

Indeed, life is wonderful. The whole lot of it! I'm Taoist...and God is great.

Tön

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