I don't know exactly what your question means. What do you mean when you say the inability to retrieve the probe hasn't satisfied your curiosity?

There are cosmologies in which the universe is closed, but not the galaxy. I've never heard this terminology before. If the universe were closed, it probably wouldn't look too different. The exact redshift dependence of the distant galaxies would be slightly different, but that's about it.

• Take the plunge, new ideas are fun! - duordi - November 12, 2002 - 04:41 UTC
  • Some galaxies are spherical - yaniru - November 12, 2002 - 12:59 UTC
    • Do I have your assumptions correct? - duordi - November 13, 2002 - 00:42 UTC
      • An expanding universe is observed - yaniru - November 13, 2002 - 02:23 UTC
      • Or stretching of the image orbit is observed. - duordi - November 13, 2002 - 04:27 UTC
        • Let's just address one point - yaniru - November 13, 2002 - 13:06 UTC
        • I think we are in agreement. - duordi - November 14, 2002 - 00:49 UTC
          • I think not - yaniru - November 14, 2002 - 15:07 UTC
      • I think... - cosmotiger - November 13, 2002 - 07:04 UTC
        • I'm in process - duordi - November 13, 2002 - 22:55 UTC
          • Well said, but... - cosmotiger - November 13, 2002 - 23:13 UTC
            • Not with expectations, I just enjoy science. - duordi - November 14, 2002 - 02:21 UTC
              • What are your predictions? - cosmotiger - November 14, 2002 - 03:00 UTC
                • Just the predictions or all of it? - duordi - November 14, 2002 - 22:23 UTC
                  • Preferably both, if you have time *NT* - cosmotiger - November 15, 2002 - 04:42 UTC
                    • If you quit speeking to me after this, I'll understand - duordi - November 17, 2002 - 01:01 UTC
                      • I'm not interested in ignoring you... - cosmotiger - November 18, 2002 - 01:32 UTC
                        • Thanks. - duordi - November 18, 2002 - 02:33 UTC
                          • PS - duordi - November 18, 2002 - 13:15 UTC
                            • I'd have to say... - cosmotiger - November 18, 2002 - 17:34 UTC
                              • Einstein may not be current, but people haven’t changed. - duordi - November 19, 2002 - 18:54 UTC
                                • Didn't you admit the closed universe idea was wrong - yaniru - November 19, 2002 - 19:20 UTC
                                  • My model is,but I'm not qualified to make one. - duordi - November 19, 2002 - 23:19 UTC
                                    • Everyone only plays a part & you are - quiet - November 20, 2002 - 04:50 UTC
                                      • Thanks, I needed that. *nt* - duordi - November 21, 2002 - 02:19 UTC
                                • Curious - cosmotiger - November 19, 2002 - 20:57 UTC
                                  • It may have been Einstein's wife - yaniru - November 19, 2002 - 21:31 UTC
                                    • Interesting - cosmotiger - November 19, 2002 - 22:23 UTC
                                      • So I need to marry the right girl, is that it? *nt* - duordi - November 19, 2002 - 23:25 UTC
                                        • Well, that's always true *nt* - cosmotiger - November 19, 2002 - 23:55 UTC
                                          • Been there, done that. *nt* - duordi - November 20, 2002 - 00:37 UTC
                                      • Women could not get university positions then - yaniru - November 20, 2002 - 02:15 UTC
                                        • My great aunt was an asst. chief in U.S. Patent Office, 1940s - quiet - November 20, 2002 - 04:11 UTC
                                        • Did she have a journal? - duordi - November 21, 2002 - 02:22 UTC
                                          • 1st wife, according to Physics Today(nt) - yaniru - November 21, 2002 - 14:37 UTC
                                  • You know what they say... - quiet - November 20, 2002 - 05:28 UTC
            • Nicholas-Please explain: - yaniru - November 14, 2002 - 15:11 UTC
              • No, just my sloppiness... - cosmotiger - November 15, 2002 - 05:26 UTC