Hi Mario,

Please don't feel that you cannot 'compete on this playing field'. You have a logical mind and that is enough for any discussion.

>>>Why would you need an infinite collection of all possible math worlds? Isn't it enough to say "Here are all the possibilities, out of which only one emerged?">>The only reason your divine order has such properties is because you know nothing about it. It's easy to take some theoretical divine order, with no known properties, and say "Well, it must be this way because I think it's appealing." Isn't it possible, or even probable, that an external divine order to the universe would have many of the same properties that you find unappealing in mathematics?

• No divine order is needed. - alexander - July 18, 2001 - 16:09 UTC
  • Where to buy 'how to compute the universe made simple'? - harvey1 - July 18, 2001 - 17:12 UTC
    • Where to buy? You have to wait - scientists work on it. - alexander - July 18, 2001 - 18:57 UTC
      • I'm afraid that book will be missing chapter 1 - harvey1 - July 18, 2001 - 23:23 UTC
      • all universes obey SAME basic math - yanniru - July 19, 2001 - 11:55 UTC
• Maybe not - stormcrow - July 18, 2001 - 19:07 UTC
  • I don't think you understand what I'm saying - harvey1 - July 18, 2001 - 19:43 UTC
  • Can you name anything that has been proven not to follow logical - yanniru - July 19, 2001 - 12:05 UTC
    • Hold on here, on "incompleteness" of math. - alexander - July 19, 2001 - 19:09 UTC
      • Derivation is proof in math - yanniru - July 20, 2001 - 00:35 UTC
        • Cannot be derived or do not exist? - stormcrow - July 20, 2001 - 02:03 UTC
          • Neither - yanniru - July 22, 2001 - 17:27 UTC