: : : How does the second law of thermodynamics play in the matter of existence, god, et all? Anyone? Theories? Opinions? Nate, H, Phil??

: : : Tön

: : Energy conversion is a constant prosses, its direction can be altered but its motion (change) cannot be stopped. Or, if this motion could be stopped, the energy itself would dissapear (be destroyed). There is always a direction for energy to take, if one option is closed off due to natural processes (or man made ones), there is always another available, and depending upon the amounts/varieties (mixture) of energy it would take to "change" or cross over, it always takes the option which allows the simplist conversion, meaning the least amount of change. Absolute zero would require absolute stillness, and would require ALOT of "nothingness" empty space, and might be the opposite of a black hole? Anyway, even if such a thing as an area of Azero existed, I do not think we could ever actually measure it, because all our devices measure the configurations of "something" matter. Also, even the presence of the instruments would bring the temp up, however slight, or, the vastness would in fact "swallow" the energy and would indeed destroy it, but that is just another fancy idea like the rest of this. What exactly is the lowest temp man has measured or achieved? What is the temp in space, say behand the moon, and how close is this to Azero? In my opinion, energy itselt is a perpetual motion engine, the total never changes, only its parts change (not the Sum). : : Just one idea.

: However, the universe would have to be infinite in volume to have the presence of absolute zero. The fact is, the universe is extrapolating and as it is, the background radiation is exponentially "slowing" in cooling. In other words, for background radiation to be infinitely close to '0' kelvin, the universe would have to be infinitely close to being infinite. : )

***Exactly! The universe IS infinite, we are talking space, not matter, and background radiation is only the energy, and if it is moving it still shows nothing about the "bounderies of space" only the movement of energy, which may or may not have come from a big bang. Of course, one cannot really say "infinite" in volume because matter takes up some, BUT, "IF" the universe never does stop in any direction "meaning the nothingness" then the matter does nothing to the nothingness, because it just continues no matter how much matter there is, but that part is a whole dif subj. Although I do not think such a thing as Azero exists. AND "if" the universe was finite, and there was a boundery, I would expect Azero to be on the other "side".

• Re: Absolute Zero - nåte - February 5, 1999 - 03:43 UTC
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          • God as "HE" and why won't "IT" talk to me? - Phil.o.Sofir - February 9, 1999 - 17:30 UTC
      • Hot and cold - Phil.o.Sofir - February 9, 1999 - 17:05 UTC