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Posted by Bruce on July 30, 2003 01:11:10 UTC

but I differ here.
"True, they are the best on the planet when it comes to understanding models of nature, but the basis of that knowledge is often naive and often wrong. To get a better conceptual view you have to
study philosophy."

If a scientific theoretical model always makes accurate predictions for natural phenomena then it can't be naive or wrong. The concepts which an accurate model is based on may not be what you, as a philosopher, consider 'real' or 'true' but that was never the purpose of science to begin with.

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