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Re: Reality 101

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Posted by nåte/">nåte on January 23, 1999 16:45:08 UTC

: : : Premise 1: Evil Exists in the World : : : Premise 2: God is all good : : : Premise 3: God is all knowing : : : Premise 4: God is all poweful : : : Conclusion 1: God knows the evil exists : : : Conclusion 2: God allows it to exist : : : Conclusion 3: God could stop it : : : Conclusion: God is not all PKG

: : Everything is right as you state, except the last conclusion; seems you are presupposing the mind of God.

: : Let me suggest to you the Calvinistic view of God from another individual on the net...

: : "Calvinism focuses on the sovereignty of God and compares it to the depravity of man. Calvinism exalts God to the highest level of glory as the : : soveriegn Lord who's will is accomplished in the universe and in man. It also recognizes the justice and holiness of God and the required punishment of the sinner who : : does not fall under the blood of Christ."

: : You seem to forget that God is perfect, and in being perfect this means perfect love, and in perfect love you must have perfect justice and discipline. God did not : : create evil. Man's rebellion towards God is his decision, not Gods'. How could we have an authentic relationship with our Creator if we did not have free will?

: : -nåte

: When a hurricane destroys lives in Central America, most people : view this as evil. Did God not create the hurricane? What does : this have to do with man's rebellion?

Your statement/question actually brings up a good point and one that actually supports the reasoning of a perfect Creator.

To answer this question goes back before mankind desired to 'be like God' and rebelled. When God created the universe before he created mankind it was perfect. When referring to the Bible it implies that Gods ultimate plan was to have his creation be perfect and to be in harmony with nature in that their was no death, suffering, chaos or any of the such. It was mankind that had the choice then to accept the perfect plan that God had given him and be in perfect communion (communication) with God the Father, or to deny this plan and desire to seek out on his own the knowledge of good and evil. Man at his roots desired to instate what he thought should be considered right or wrong in his eyes and on his ground rules. This as we know is the deception of all mankind. This very temptation has infiltrated every culture throughout the history of mankind; however it be disguised. We see it today in, modernism, post modernism, pantheism, rationalism, and finally naturalism. All of these philosophical viewpoints have their roots in this rebellion. Thus it is after man's rebellion that God had to break this intimate relationship He once had with His creation due to the presence of sin. God is perfect, holy and just. He cannot accept that which is not perfect. This "withdrawal" from God and his creation not only affected His relationship with mankind, but also affected the harmony and congruency of natural law. Thus the once congruent cosmos and creation has become that of decay; incongruent, chaotic and with pain, suffering and the presence of evil.

Lastly, it is not in God's interest that people die and suffer. He does not

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