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Re: Reality 101

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Posted by Tön/">Tön on February 4, 1999 13:21:25 UTC

: : : : Premise 1: Evil Exists in the World : : : : Premise 2: God is all good : : : : Premise 3: God is all knowing : : : : Premise 4: God is all poweful : : : : Conclusion 1: God knows the evil exists : : : : Conclusion 2: God allows it to exist : : : : Conclusion 3: God could stop it : : : : Conclusion: God is not all PKG

: : : Everything is right as you state, except the last conclusion; seems you are presupposing the mind of God.

: : : Let me suggest to you the Calvinistic view of God from another individual on the net...

: : : "Calvinism focuses on the sovereignty of God and compares it to the depravity of man. Calvinism exalts God to the highest level of glory as the : : : soveriegn Lord who's will is accomplished in the universe and in man. It also recognizes the justice and holiness of God and the required punishment of the sinner who : : : does not fall under the blood of Christ."

: : : You seem to forget that God is perfect, and in being perfect this means perfect love, and in perfect love you must have perfect justice and discipline. God did not : : : create evil. Man's rebellion towards God is his decision, not Gods'. How could we have an authentic relationship with our Creator if we did not have free will?

: : : -nåte

: : When a hurricane destroys lives in Central America, most people : : view this as evil. Did God not create the hurricane? What does : : this have to do with man's rebellion?

: Your statement/question actually brings up a good : point and one that actually supports the reasoning : of a perfect Creator.

: To answer this question goes back before mankind : desired to 'be like God' and rebelled. When God : created the universe before he created mankind it : was perfect. When referring to the Bible it implies : that Gods ultimate plan was to have his creation be : perfect and to be in harmony with nature in that : their was no death, suffering, chaos or any of the : such. It was mankind that had the choice then to : accept the perfect plan that God had given him and : be in perfect communion (communication) with God the : Father, or to deny this plan and desire to seek out : on his own the knowledge of good and evil. Man at : his roots desired to instate what he thought should : be considered right or wrong in his eyes and on : his ground rules. This as we know is the deception : of all mankind. This very temptation has infiltrated : every culture throughout the history of mankind; however : it be disguised. We see it today in, modernism, post modernism, : pantheism, rationalism, and finally naturalism. All of : these philosophical viewpoints have their roots : in this rebellion. Thus it is after man's rebellion : that God had to break this intimate relationship He : once had with His creation due to the presence of : sin. God is perfect, holy and just. He cannot accept : that which is not perfect. This "withdrawal" from God : and his creation not only affected His relationship : with mankind, but also affected the harmony and congruency : of natural law. Thus the once congruent cosmos and creation : has become that of decay; incongruent, chaotic and with : pain, suffering and the presence of evil.

: Lastly, it is not in God's interest that people die : and suffer. He does not

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