R wrote:
"Jesus said that you had to keep all the commandments of Moses to get into heaven."

There you go again. You never showed that
he said that anywhere in the Bible. We have been through this over and over again. The only reason to read your posts on this subject is to
periodically ask you to back up your work.

R wrote:
"By keeping all those comandments, you would be following Jesus. Paul changed that requirement into just belief in Jesus."

That's B.S., M.S. and piled higher and deeper.
Paul cannot change the requirements for living well in the universe. Like you, he can express his opinion. For some reason, his works are available to read. But you vastly oversimplify them.

R wrote:
"Paul also changed the religion of Jesus from one that was basically subversive for nation states to one that supported nation states."

This is not entirely wrong, but over-simplifies to the point of significant distortion. As a scientist, you should know better.

R wrote:
"That is when Christianity took off, when emperors and kings could use the religion to control the masses."

Or, that is when Christianity went off its
own path, when it was usurped by emperors and kings.

R wrote:
"All religions contained god commandments to kill. The jews were told by god to commit the first recorded genocide, killing not only all people, but also all animals. The Bagavata Gita justifies war. Islam justifies war. Jesus may be the exception. But Paul changed all that. The Crusades are evidence of that."

The Gita does not justify war as far as I can tell. Please cite the passage. It admits war is
something humans seem to feel is natural to them.
"Justifies" is not the right therm.

• Thank you for being quiet - yaniru - February 6, 2003 - 17:28 UTC
  • And Paul said - yaniru - February 6, 2003 - 17:45 UTC
    • Paul's requirement for salvation - yaniru - February 6, 2003 - 17:52 UTC
  • Your standard of algebra is too sloppy - carefuluniverse - February 7, 2003 - 00:56 UTC
  • Sorry - yaniru - February 7, 2003 - 01:58 UTC
    • "you realize of course" IS NOT an accepted form of proof - carefuluniverse - February 7, 2003 - 20:55 UTC
      • His only new comandment - yaniru - February 8, 2003 - 00:20 UTC
        • 613? - daredevil - February 8, 2003 - 13:36 UTC
          • The most important commandments according to Jesus - yaniru - February 8, 2003 - 18:50 UTC
            • Dissing the 613 - carefuluniverse - February 9, 2003 - 00:35 UTC
              • Matthew 19 - yaniru - February 9, 2003 - 03:45 UTC
                • Yes to Matthew 19; no to your misuse of it - carefuluniverse - February 9, 2003 - 14:38 UTC
        • Jesus told truth. R. should try it more. - carefuluniverse - February 9, 2003 - 00:32 UTC
        • In response to your question, Yanniru (et al) - carefuluniverse - February 10, 2003 - 01:12 UTC
          • Do not even the Gentiles do the same? - yaniru - February 10, 2003 - 16:43 UTC