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Posted by Harvey on October 15, 2002 15:20:19 UTC

***Your personal opinion is that to believe in noah's ark is irrational. My personal belief is that believing life arose, for no reason, at some random time, from non-living material, is irrational. I also believe you are irrational for believing that the universe started from nothing, at some random time. Should we both be removed from the forum? Why would one of our personal beliefs carry more weight than another?***

You are arguing against a philosophy called naturalism, whereas I am not discussing one's philosophy. I am discussing a ridiculous view that the ecological history of the earth was carried on an Ark. A philosophy can be irrational, but it is much more difficult to disapprove of one's philosophy since it is based on unverifiable assumptions. There are no unverifiable assumptions in your irrational claims. It is matter of fact that you cannot fit even today's land-based ecological world on an Ark, but much less the history of life. You are simply an irrational 17 year old who is perhaps bound to be irrational your whole life.

***Since I believe you are irrational, and you believe I am irrational, we should both leave, or both stay.***

People who are committed to institutions for their mental state might say the same thing as they are being committed. However, this doesn't change the fact of the matter of their irrational mindset giving cause for their being committed. In your case, you should be committed to the Funny Room for your stream of irrational statements that bring down the quality of the forum. In the past this forum was a very intellectual site and you have brought it to your home schooled irrational-based level.

***I don't remember you asking me this before. But go ahead.***

I don't see it as necessary, but since you asked I'll post it. However, due to your irrational state of mind it will hardly make a difference. The list could be a billion species but that would hardly deter your irrational claims.

***That's your choice. I have been in this forum since May. I have engaged in many interesting arguments. You are the first to want me out of this forum. Does a troll usually post six months before anyone notices he is a troll?***

It took a while to see the effects that you have brought to this forum. Also, it takes time to hunt down to the misconception that someone has. You're young, so it is quite possible that you are simply unaware of the scientific implications of your beliefs. However, a number of us have brought you to the brink of where it is clear that your beliefs are founded on irrational premises. Further discussion has shown that you cannot think rationally, which means that this forum will be permanently damaged due to your presence (i.e., there is no possibility matters will change). Therefore, you should leave (or be transferred to a Funny Room) since you are not a rational person and you bring down the quality of the forum. If not, then I see no reason why I should post quality posts when the forum has denigrated to pure Language Removed. I've always avoided sites where garbage was posted (I've left sites before due to this reason). Of course you don't care because you can't discern garbage posts from enlightening discussions.

Harv

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